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[+] 219 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (123 children)
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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (39 children)

    Definitely. In my country, tipping aren't expected but it's a pleasant thing to receive in service industry, in US of A, tipping is expected and people will vehemently defend the status quo.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (32 children)

    It's expected because waiters can't make minimum wage without it. It's not defended because people like that waiters are paid so little, it's defended because they're paid so little and politicians, until now, have seemed to have no interest in changing that. Like so many things in this country, the people have to come up with a patchwork solution just to keep others alive because the politicians don't care.

    So yes, I will defend tipping until this is fixed everywhere in the U.S. And I doubt it will be fixed any time soon. I'll be surprised if it's even fixed in these five states.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It has already become your culture, like it or not. Whether you tip or not, employer has to make up the different if the tip doesn't add up to the minimum wage, so you're essentially subsidising the employer as of now. Fixing the minimum wage will not get rid of tipping culture either, and exploitative employer knows that, so they will continue to pay the bare minimum and expect the customer to foot the bill.

    I wonder if everyone reaction will change if we change "Tipping" to "Subsidising", because that's what the current status quo are.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    Yeah, I've always thought of it that way too: abhor the underpaying bosses and the politicians who allow it and advocate for change, but until then keep tipping generously no matter the level of service.

    If you get bad service, your server might be having a rough day and/or the place might be busy or otherwise make their job of serving you more difficult. That doesn't mean that you have a right to deny them rent and food money.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    You’re assuming you owe the server rent and food money. Where are you the employer? How does that server deserve special benefits over the person at the drive through, the busser, the stocker at the grocery, etc? You’re an enabler, keeping an abusive system alive to benefit one small category at the expense of everyone else

    Granted, I tip generously as well, but that’s because I’m a pussy who doesn’t stand behind my beliefs

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (33 children)

    Unless "we" change it via legislation, that's never going to happen. Let's explore how it would play out as an individual restaurant initiative:

    Restaurant raises staff wages, raises prices to cover the increase. Even if you disclose it on the menu, customers don't care: they see prices 20% higher, they choose to eat somewhere with cheaper menu prices. This is frequently what happens when restaurants try to do that.

    If the restaurant increases server wages less than what they would make in tips, the servers will leave for another restaurant. The benefit of tips is that the harder you work, and more tables you take, the more money you make. Good servers can make $50+ an hour if they hustle.

    Source: 8 years experience in the industry.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (32 children)

    The benefit of tips is that the harder you work, and more tables you take, the more money you make. Good servers can make $50+ an hour if they hustle.

    I shouldn’t be paying my server’s wage; the restaurant should.

    Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily.

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