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US will not support Ukraine at level of past two years - US State Department (www.pravda.com.ua)
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[–] 66 points 2 years ago (3 children)

...because they seek to help the country build its own military-industrial base.

Clickbait headlines are infuriating.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    ... oh, sure. like we did with Afghanistan?

    This will surely go well!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    The US is cutting its losses and moving on it seems. They aren't going to even try the Afghanistan or Vietnam approach of propping up a puppet regime. Though there's a lot of crazy people in the US government, I can see them repeating the same mistakes but expecting a different outcome.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    is there any reason to believe russia would allow ukraine to build factories without bombing them?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well Russia hasn't managed to destroy Ukraine's existing manufacturing capacity, so yes. Minister of Strategic Industries Kamyshin claimed a twenty-fold increase in artillery shell production over 2023 a couple of months ago, and while he's obviously going to be leaning towards a favourable view of the situation given his job I think that the many deals signed by Ukraine's NATO suppliers to begin manufacturing within Ukraine suggest that there is some substance to his words. Russia does not have access to most of Ukraine and, despite Ukraine's lack of a real airforce, has not been able to successfully establish air superiority.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Well Russia hasn’t managed to destroy Ukraine’s existing manufacturing capacity

    they have though

    Minister of Strategic Industries Kamyshin claimed a twenty-fold increase in artillery shell production over 2023 a couple of months ago

    they can claim whatever they want for propaganda, in the real world we can observe their artillery shortages and failed offensives

    despite Ukraine’s lack of a real airforce, has not been able to successfully establish air superiority

    you don't need air superiority to destroy a factory, please put aside the wishful thinking for 5 minutes if you can

    troops can retreat, equipment can be relocated somewhere else, a factory is a static building that you CANNOT MOVE, no matter how much air defense you put near it eventually a missile, drone or shell will go through and damage/destroy it

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    Russia is one of the biggest artillery manufacturers and stockpilers in the entire world and even they're suffering some shell constraints. There is a lot of space between "literally all the ammunition you could want" and "zero ammunition", especially in a conflict like this. Both sides are fighting in a way that will eat basically any volume of artillery ammunition that is available. So no, shell constraints do not indicate a totally destroyed domestic industry.

    a factory is a static building that you CANNOT MOVE

    That's why you don't build it near the front line. Ukraine is big. Russian aircraft attacking a factory in Kyiv or even further west would have to spend absolutely ages in extremely hostile airspace.

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