▲ 919 ▼ Stretching the definition of an antique "meme", but here's an image from 2016 about a message board gag in 2006. (startrek.website) submitted 2 years ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website to c/antiquememesroadshow@lemmy.world 66 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] The2b@lemmy.world 189 points 2 years ago (5 children) People would click God damn anything two decades ago permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago (2 children) Now they'll install any random fucking app a company tells them to install. Oh, you want to see a menu at the restaurant? Just install this app. How about fuck you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 36 points 2 years ago (4 children) Modern mobile OS' and apps are quite strictly sandboxed so, with reasonable vetting like Google Play Store and Apple Store, you can reasonably safely install random crap and uninstall it later. It's a different realm from running random binary executables. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago (2 children) with reasonable vetting like Google Play Store Seemingly innocuous Play store apps get found to be viruses all the time, most recent in my memory being a few barcode scanner apps, farthest back in my memory being flashlight apps back before android did it natively, but there's been more over the years. Trusting apps "because play store" is horrible practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago It's reasonably safe. That's not the same as "harmless." permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Because play store and OS permissions. Nothing is 100% safe but that's two layers of defense these apps have that a random exe designed for an OS that gives root perms to every process does not have permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) That depends on your definition of safe. Everyone wants to be a data broker these days, and the amount of data that can be gleaned from basic app permissions is startling. Not to mention that it's just annoying. We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. 90% of the apps out there could be websites, and the world would be better if they were. But having an app gives the publisher a lot more control over what they can do, how they can spam you, and what they can scrape, and that's why everyone has their own stupid apps now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. God, please, no. There's a really good reason WebOS experiments all, universally, failed, and it isn't because Big Brother wants your data. They can get it through web apps just fine, anyway. No, the reason is because web apps suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are very wrong about them not wanting your data, and the tracking/snooping capabilities of an app vs a browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Did I say they don't want your data? I said they can get it through web apps too. Doveryay, no proveryay, except it should be don't trust, and verify. Web app or native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Isn't Discord and Microsoft Teams just a webapp in Electron? My main grievance is that Chrome on Android doesn't hide that URL bar no matter what permalink fedilink source parent [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Nope! Not even close. They can do a TON to fuck up your device. Phone sandboxes are generally terrible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Blot is blot. My phone barely handles what I want on it. I don't need a menu app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago You don't need it, I'm just saying it's not in the same realm of security hazard compared to running random executables on the internet 20 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Here's an unsigned APK that's just our website in a container plus all of the tracking and data mining we could shove in there. Why dont you go ahead and oauth us to all of your social media accounts too? Don't worry, we only need post permissions so that we can bring you these sweet customized bargains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] money_loo@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) “It said nude pictures of Anna Kournikova…” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm listening permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It is actually a sasser worm virus. Don't do it! permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoy@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 years ago Yep, back in the very early 2000s, this was something we did at school to jokke around. The cupholder joke was neat, it had a nice official looking UI with the Coca Cola logo, and a corporate style promotion text, there was a button to click to accept the "gift", and only then did the CD drive open. Then I remember running a joke program that would make the startbutton jump around on the screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago I still couldn't resist to be honest. It can be done safely. Well, mostly. Some things may decide to overwrite the BIOS with Nyan cat, for example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 years ago So nothing's changed? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago (2 children) Now they'll install any random fucking app a company tells them to install. Oh, you want to see a menu at the restaurant? Just install this app. How about fuck you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 36 points 2 years ago (4 children) Modern mobile OS' and apps are quite strictly sandboxed so, with reasonable vetting like Google Play Store and Apple Store, you can reasonably safely install random crap and uninstall it later. It's a different realm from running random binary executables. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago (2 children) with reasonable vetting like Google Play Store Seemingly innocuous Play store apps get found to be viruses all the time, most recent in my memory being a few barcode scanner apps, farthest back in my memory being flashlight apps back before android did it natively, but there's been more over the years. Trusting apps "because play store" is horrible practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago It's reasonably safe. That's not the same as "harmless." permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Because play store and OS permissions. Nothing is 100% safe but that's two layers of defense these apps have that a random exe designed for an OS that gives root perms to every process does not have permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) That depends on your definition of safe. Everyone wants to be a data broker these days, and the amount of data that can be gleaned from basic app permissions is startling. Not to mention that it's just annoying. We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. 90% of the apps out there could be websites, and the world would be better if they were. But having an app gives the publisher a lot more control over what they can do, how they can spam you, and what they can scrape, and that's why everyone has their own stupid apps now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. God, please, no. There's a really good reason WebOS experiments all, universally, failed, and it isn't because Big Brother wants your data. They can get it through web apps just fine, anyway. No, the reason is because web apps suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are very wrong about them not wanting your data, and the tracking/snooping capabilities of an app vs a browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Did I say they don't want your data? I said they can get it through web apps too. Doveryay, no proveryay, except it should be don't trust, and verify. Web app or native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Isn't Discord and Microsoft Teams just a webapp in Electron? My main grievance is that Chrome on Android doesn't hide that URL bar no matter what permalink fedilink source parent [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Nope! Not even close. They can do a TON to fuck up your device. Phone sandboxes are generally terrible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Blot is blot. My phone barely handles what I want on it. I don't need a menu app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago You don't need it, I'm just saying it's not in the same realm of security hazard compared to running random executables on the internet 20 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Here's an unsigned APK that's just our website in a container plus all of the tracking and data mining we could shove in there. Why dont you go ahead and oauth us to all of your social media accounts too? Don't worry, we only need post permissions so that we can bring you these sweet customized bargains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kogasa@programming.dev 36 points 2 years ago (4 children) Modern mobile OS' and apps are quite strictly sandboxed so, with reasonable vetting like Google Play Store and Apple Store, you can reasonably safely install random crap and uninstall it later. It's a different realm from running random binary executables. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago (2 children) with reasonable vetting like Google Play Store Seemingly innocuous Play store apps get found to be viruses all the time, most recent in my memory being a few barcode scanner apps, farthest back in my memory being flashlight apps back before android did it natively, but there's been more over the years. Trusting apps "because play store" is horrible practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago It's reasonably safe. That's not the same as "harmless." permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Because play store and OS permissions. Nothing is 100% safe but that's two layers of defense these apps have that a random exe designed for an OS that gives root perms to every process does not have permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) That depends on your definition of safe. Everyone wants to be a data broker these days, and the amount of data that can be gleaned from basic app permissions is startling. Not to mention that it's just annoying. We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. 90% of the apps out there could be websites, and the world would be better if they were. But having an app gives the publisher a lot more control over what they can do, how they can spam you, and what they can scrape, and that's why everyone has their own stupid apps now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. God, please, no. There's a really good reason WebOS experiments all, universally, failed, and it isn't because Big Brother wants your data. They can get it through web apps just fine, anyway. No, the reason is because web apps suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are very wrong about them not wanting your data, and the tracking/snooping capabilities of an app vs a browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Did I say they don't want your data? I said they can get it through web apps too. Doveryay, no proveryay, except it should be don't trust, and verify. Web app or native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Isn't Discord and Microsoft Teams just a webapp in Electron? My main grievance is that Chrome on Android doesn't hide that URL bar no matter what permalink fedilink source parent [–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Nope! Not even close. They can do a TON to fuck up your device. Phone sandboxes are generally terrible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Blot is blot. My phone barely handles what I want on it. I don't need a menu app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago You don't need it, I'm just saying it's not in the same realm of security hazard compared to running random executables on the internet 20 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago (2 children) with reasonable vetting like Google Play Store Seemingly innocuous Play store apps get found to be viruses all the time, most recent in my memory being a few barcode scanner apps, farthest back in my memory being flashlight apps back before android did it natively, but there's been more over the years. Trusting apps "because play store" is horrible practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago It's reasonably safe. That's not the same as "harmless." permalink fedilink source parent [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Because play store and OS permissions. Nothing is 100% safe but that's two layers of defense these apps have that a random exe designed for an OS that gives root perms to every process does not have permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kogasa@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago It's reasonably safe. That's not the same as "harmless." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago Because play store and OS permissions. Nothing is 100% safe but that's two layers of defense these apps have that a random exe designed for an OS that gives root perms to every process does not have permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) That depends on your definition of safe. Everyone wants to be a data broker these days, and the amount of data that can be gleaned from basic app permissions is startling. Not to mention that it's just annoying. We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. 90% of the apps out there could be websites, and the world would be better if they were. But having an app gives the publisher a lot more control over what they can do, how they can spam you, and what they can scrape, and that's why everyone has their own stupid apps now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. God, please, no. There's a really good reason WebOS experiments all, universally, failed, and it isn't because Big Brother wants your data. They can get it through web apps just fine, anyway. No, the reason is because web apps suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are very wrong about them not wanting your data, and the tracking/snooping capabilities of an app vs a browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Did I say they don't want your data? I said they can get it through web apps too. Doveryay, no proveryay, except it should be don't trust, and verify. Web app or native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Isn't Discord and Microsoft Teams just a webapp in Electron? My main grievance is that Chrome on Android doesn't hide that URL bar no matter what permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) We already solved this "an app for everything" problem 40 years ago with the HTML/CSS/W3C standards and a regular old web browser. God, please, no. There's a really good reason WebOS experiments all, universally, failed, and it isn't because Big Brother wants your data. They can get it through web apps just fine, anyway. No, the reason is because web apps suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are very wrong about them not wanting your data, and the tracking/snooping capabilities of an app vs a browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Did I say they don't want your data? I said they can get it through web apps too. Doveryay, no proveryay, except it should be don't trust, and verify. Web app or native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Isn't Discord and Microsoft Teams just a webapp in Electron? My main grievance is that Chrome on Android doesn't hide that URL bar no matter what permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are very wrong about them not wanting your data, and the tracking/snooping capabilities of an app vs a browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Did I say they don't want your data? I said they can get it through web apps too. Doveryay, no proveryay, except it should be don't trust, and verify. Web app or native. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Did I say they don't want your data? I said they can get it through web apps too. Doveryay, no proveryay, except it should be don't trust, and verify. Web app or native. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Isn't Discord and Microsoft Teams just a webapp in Electron? My main grievance is that Chrome on Android doesn't hide that URL bar no matter what permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Nope! Not even close. They can do a TON to fuck up your device. Phone sandboxes are generally terrible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Blot is blot. My phone barely handles what I want on it. I don't need a menu app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kogasa@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago You don't need it, I'm just saying it's not in the same realm of security hazard compared to running random executables on the internet 20 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kogasa@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago You don't need it, I'm just saying it's not in the same realm of security hazard compared to running random executables on the internet 20 years ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Here's an unsigned APK that's just our website in a container plus all of the tracking and data mining we could shove in there. Why dont you go ahead and oauth us to all of your social media accounts too? Don't worry, we only need post permissions so that we can bring you these sweet customized bargains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] money_loo@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) “It said nude pictures of Anna Kournikova…” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm listening permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It is actually a sasser worm virus. Don't do it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm listening permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It is actually a sasser worm virus. Don't do it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago It is actually a sasser worm virus. Don't do it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 years ago Yep, back in the very early 2000s, this was something we did at school to jokke around. The cupholder joke was neat, it had a nice official looking UI with the Coca Cola logo, and a corporate style promotion text, there was a button to click to accept the "gift", and only then did the CD drive open. Then I remember running a joke program that would make the startbutton jump around on the screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 years ago I still couldn't resist to be honest. It can be done safely. Well, mostly. Some things may decide to overwrite the BIOS with Nyan cat, for example. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 years ago So nothing's changed? permalink fedilink source parent