▲ 666 ▼ Judge rules that Twitter violated contract when it withheld millions of dollars in bonuses (www.courthousenews.com) submitted 2 years ago by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago (6 children) This is why you need unions. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) I like unions and I don't think this is an example otherwise. But, why does this highlight unions? This is a dude that didn't write a check. I don't think he would have paid bonuses to a union either. It seems to me, a judge would be needed in either case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Union contracts leave things less open to interpretation, union advice helps employees understand that this is a legal issue, and coordinated legal action and representation help you win the fight in court. Leaving it to individual employees to individually see the problem, recognise they have legal standing, then fight Phoney Stark's infestation of lawyers isn't super-realistic, and turns the employment contracts into nothing more than a weapon to fuck with the employees, because Musk can just ignore anything in the contract favourable to employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) This was an oral agreement that a judge found binding. This shit happens to unions. Again, I like unions and think these employees would be well-served by one, but it's hard to see this example as "this is why we need unions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unions aren't silver bullets - but they're bullets nonetheless, and that's good enough most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The court, famous for siding with the workers over the bosses in all but the most egregious cases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) I like unions and I don't think this is an example otherwise. But, why does this highlight unions? This is a dude that didn't write a check. I don't think he would have paid bonuses to a union either. It seems to me, a judge would be needed in either case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Union contracts leave things less open to interpretation, union advice helps employees understand that this is a legal issue, and coordinated legal action and representation help you win the fight in court. Leaving it to individual employees to individually see the problem, recognise they have legal standing, then fight Phoney Stark's infestation of lawyers isn't super-realistic, and turns the employment contracts into nothing more than a weapon to fuck with the employees, because Musk can just ignore anything in the contract favourable to employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) This was an oral agreement that a judge found binding. This shit happens to unions. Again, I like unions and think these employees would be well-served by one, but it's hard to see this example as "this is why we need unions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unions aren't silver bullets - but they're bullets nonetheless, and that's good enough most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The court, famous for siding with the workers over the bosses in all but the most egregious cases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Union contracts leave things less open to interpretation, union advice helps employees understand that this is a legal issue, and coordinated legal action and representation help you win the fight in court. Leaving it to individual employees to individually see the problem, recognise they have legal standing, then fight Phoney Stark's infestation of lawyers isn't super-realistic, and turns the employment contracts into nothing more than a weapon to fuck with the employees, because Musk can just ignore anything in the contract favourable to employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) This was an oral agreement that a judge found binding. This shit happens to unions. Again, I like unions and think these employees would be well-served by one, but it's hard to see this example as "this is why we need unions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unions aren't silver bullets - but they're bullets nonetheless, and that's good enough most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) This was an oral agreement that a judge found binding. This shit happens to unions. Again, I like unions and think these employees would be well-served by one, but it's hard to see this example as "this is why we need unions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unions aren't silver bullets - but they're bullets nonetheless, and that's good enough most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unions aren't silver bullets - but they're bullets nonetheless, and that's good enough most of the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago With that, I agree. It doesn't answer my question, but I'll gladly agree with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The court, famous for siding with the workers over the bosses in all but the most egregious cases. permalink fedilink source parent