▲ 200 ▼ Fetterman says TikTok creating ‘warped’ perceptions of Israel-Hamas war (thehill.com) submitted 2 years ago by USAONE@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 143 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If Mike Tyson fought a 9 year old for calling him a bitch... Yeah, they're both in the wrong. But post fight it wouldn't be rational to say they're both at equally at fault. Especially if Mike didn't stop with that kid and just beat up every child in the room permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I get what you're saying, but I think that analogy doesn't really capture the gravity of what happened. Both of them have committed egregious war crimes, which means people aren't just beat up, they're dead. Israel has certainly committed an order of magnitude more, but I don't think it does the victims justice to imply Israel is the big, strong adult who merely got kicked in the shins by Hamas. I think your analogy could be improved if you changed the 9yo vs Mike Tyson to the 9yo's adult cousin who fights Mike Tyson for the family honor but also abuses the 9yo for fun. Still doesn't capture the gravity of the number of innocent people who have died, but it at least represents the parties involved a bit better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is Israel the child abuser in your scenario? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, Hamas is the abuser in his scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Palestine is the abused child then, and Israel abuses the child too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I didn't write the metaphor. I just explained what it meant, when following the logical structure within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I get what you're saying, but I think that analogy doesn't really capture the gravity of what happened. Both of them have committed egregious war crimes, which means people aren't just beat up, they're dead. Israel has certainly committed an order of magnitude more, but I don't think it does the victims justice to imply Israel is the big, strong adult who merely got kicked in the shins by Hamas. I think your analogy could be improved if you changed the 9yo vs Mike Tyson to the 9yo's adult cousin who fights Mike Tyson for the family honor but also abuses the 9yo for fun. Still doesn't capture the gravity of the number of innocent people who have died, but it at least represents the parties involved a bit better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is Israel the child abuser in your scenario? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, Hamas is the abuser in his scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Palestine is the abused child then, and Israel abuses the child too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I didn't write the metaphor. I just explained what it meant, when following the logical structure within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is Israel the child abuser in your scenario? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, Hamas is the abuser in his scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Palestine is the abused child then, and Israel abuses the child too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I didn't write the metaphor. I just explained what it meant, when following the logical structure within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, Hamas is the abuser in his scenario. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Palestine is the abused child then, and Israel abuses the child too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I didn't write the metaphor. I just explained what it meant, when following the logical structure within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Palestine is the abused child then, and Israel abuses the child too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I didn't write the metaphor. I just explained what it meant, when following the logical structure within permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I didn't write the metaphor. I just explained what it meant, when following the logical structure within permalink fedilink source parent