▲ 10 ▼ Why do people think Joe Rogan is right wing? (hexbear.net) submitted 2 years ago by Vampire@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Vampire@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children) Do you consider Bernie Sanders left wing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] davel@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) On Hexbear and Lemmygrad, we generally use “left” in its original meaning: the abolition of private ownership of the means of production. So Bernie is not on the left; he’s center-left at best. After the actual left was purged from American politics through two red scares and the cold war, in Orwelian fashion, “left”—and even “socialism”—came to be redefined into politics not incompatible with capitalism, such that Americans don’t even have words for real anticapitalist politics anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don’t understand how you have a three year old Hexbear account that has been pretty active, and you’re asking whether we consider Sanders to be on the left, and why we think Rogan is a reactionary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Long con permalink fedilink source parent [–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago I don't permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pluto@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago In American electoral politics, he'd be considered left-wing (not necessarily even leftist). But his politics, at least his talking-points, are centrist at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markr@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago he's a center-left social democrat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) On Hexbear and Lemmygrad, we generally use “left” in its original meaning: the abolition of private ownership of the means of production. So Bernie is not on the left; he’s center-left at best. After the actual left was purged from American politics through two red scares and the cold war, in Orwelian fashion, “left”—and even “socialism”—came to be redefined into politics not incompatible with capitalism, such that Americans don’t even have words for real anticapitalist politics anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don’t understand how you have a three year old Hexbear account that has been pretty active, and you’re asking whether we consider Sanders to be on the left, and why we think Rogan is a reactionary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Long con permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I don’t understand how you have a three year old Hexbear account that has been pretty active, and you’re asking whether we consider Sanders to be on the left, and why we think Rogan is a reactionary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Long con permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago In American electoral politics, he'd be considered left-wing (not necessarily even leftist). But his politics, at least his talking-points, are centrist at best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markr@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago he's a center-left social democrat. permalink fedilink source parent