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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I already conceded the Israel point - he would be identical or potentially worse than Biden.

I think Zelenskyy agreed to break the Minsk II protocols and was, along with his cabinet and the Ukrainian deep state, preparing a long time for the fight with Russia, which is why no meaningful effort was made to avoid the war.

Maybe that timeline is off, as I've heard others say that the key decision was made in Feb/March of 2022 when it was then decided to not sue for peace early under the belief that he'd receive adequate American support that would defeat the Russians but that, of course, has proven to be a total joke: over a 100 billion dollars in aid has not been able to shift the course of the battle at all, and it seems obvious that other than sending actual NATO units and fighting WWIII, which could absolutely go nuclear, Ukraine was doomed...

Biden was fabulously stupid or maybe even evil, or a little of each, in this insane decision...

It's amazing to me that you are talkign about this like one of the bad things Trump would have done is potentially not give Zelenskyy false hope that he could win the war and retake Crimea...

The greatst support the Ukrainians could have had would've been not getting encouraged to stand their ground so as to avoid what is now over half a million dead young men all to preserve the subordinance of two provinces that were absolutely loyal to the formerly ousted Yanukovych.