โฒ 1159 โผ Reddit CEO Digs In Heels As User Outrage Engulfs Website (www.huffpost.com) submitted 3 years ago by halo5@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world 355 comments fedilink hide all child comments Wow. Front page of huffpost.com right now. Interesting...
[โ] Nightingale@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (4 children) Wait - how come in Firefox, and not Chrome? (I say this as someone who primarily works using Chrome, as my workplace operates in the ice age and half the time Firefox acts stupid) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] jorpylaforge@lemmy.world [B] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child) he's referring to the fact that almost all browsers use chrome's rendering engine and google is abusing its position of leadership by making unnecessary api changes that make adblocking extensions all but impossible to implement. if you want to still be able to block ads on the web in the years to come, switch to a non-chrome web browser to limit google's power and ability to abuse its position. i think as of now, they have delayed the sabotage, but it's coming. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/chrome-delays-plan-to-limit-ad-blockers-new-timeline-coming-in-march/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) what are some non-google based browsers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Firefox is basically the only non-WebKit/Blink browser out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rms1990@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is WebKit bad? Gnome uses it for their browser permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago WebKit is not inherently bad. The thing that makes it not great in my opinion actually has nothing to do with the tech in this instance, but instead has to do with monopolistic practices from both Apple (who directly uses and develops WebKit) and Google (who forked WebKit into Blink). Using Gecko browsers (Firefox and co.) en masse tells website operators that they should develop for that other option and officially support it. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Depending on the operating system this could be Safari on OSX, Firefox, Brave on basically anything, Opera, if it still exists, Konqueror on Linux (fun fact: I think most current browser engines spawned from that), or lynx if you're hardcore permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] mkll@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Brave is Chromium based permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Isn't it an independent fork? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* It's based on Chromium https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/blob/master/README.md This repository holds the build tools needed to build the Brave desktop browser for macOS, Windows, and Linux. In particular, it fetches and syncs code from the projects defined in package.json and src/brave/DEPS: Chromium [โฆ] brave-core Maintains patches for 3rd party Chromium code. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] aaaantoine@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Opera still exists but it's based on chromium now. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] kaioviski@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think Nyxt is not Chromium-based. Still too experimental to be used as single/main browser, but has some very interesting concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] albert180@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Nyxt uses WebKit permalink fedilink source parent [โ] dtjones@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Not entirely sure what the commenter was referring to, but it might be about tracking (Firefox has great anti-tracking and privacy tech). The real money on the web comes from ads, and specifically targeted ads. Targeted ads require that advertisement companies like Facebook and Google track you and build a profile based on your activity. Companies like reddit make money by helping to build these profiles and by delivering ads. If you can still be targeted by ads, the powers that be will continue to try and "make a buck" off the internet. If there is a market for targeted ads, it is likely that a service will be monetized for the sake of profit, which typically leads to situations like what we've seen with reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc... Privacy is essentially an ad-business killer in the modern web. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] alpena@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Usually you can install/update Firefox (see Portable firefox) permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Chrome is proprietary software, so nobody can verify what it really does on your computer. Google also wants to kill adblockers. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] jorpylaforge@lemmy.world [B] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child) he's referring to the fact that almost all browsers use chrome's rendering engine and google is abusing its position of leadership by making unnecessary api changes that make adblocking extensions all but impossible to implement. if you want to still be able to block ads on the web in the years to come, switch to a non-chrome web browser to limit google's power and ability to abuse its position. i think as of now, they have delayed the sabotage, but it's coming. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/chrome-delays-plan-to-limit-ad-blockers-new-timeline-coming-in-march/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) what are some non-google based browsers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Firefox is basically the only non-WebKit/Blink browser out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rms1990@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is WebKit bad? Gnome uses it for their browser permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago WebKit is not inherently bad. The thing that makes it not great in my opinion actually has nothing to do with the tech in this instance, but instead has to do with monopolistic practices from both Apple (who directly uses and develops WebKit) and Google (who forked WebKit into Blink). Using Gecko browsers (Firefox and co.) en masse tells website operators that they should develop for that other option and officially support it. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Depending on the operating system this could be Safari on OSX, Firefox, Brave on basically anything, Opera, if it still exists, Konqueror on Linux (fun fact: I think most current browser engines spawned from that), or lynx if you're hardcore permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] mkll@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Brave is Chromium based permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Isn't it an independent fork? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* It's based on Chromium https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/blob/master/README.md This repository holds the build tools needed to build the Brave desktop browser for macOS, Windows, and Linux. In particular, it fetches and syncs code from the projects defined in package.json and src/brave/DEPS: Chromium [โฆ] brave-core Maintains patches for 3rd party Chromium code. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] aaaantoine@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Opera still exists but it's based on chromium now. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] kaioviski@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think Nyxt is not Chromium-based. Still too experimental to be used as single/main browser, but has some very interesting concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] albert180@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Nyxt uses WebKit permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) what are some non-google based browsers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Firefox is basically the only non-WebKit/Blink browser out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rms1990@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is WebKit bad? Gnome uses it for their browser permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago WebKit is not inherently bad. The thing that makes it not great in my opinion actually has nothing to do with the tech in this instance, but instead has to do with monopolistic practices from both Apple (who directly uses and develops WebKit) and Google (who forked WebKit into Blink). Using Gecko browsers (Firefox and co.) en masse tells website operators that they should develop for that other option and officially support it. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Depending on the operating system this could be Safari on OSX, Firefox, Brave on basically anything, Opera, if it still exists, Konqueror on Linux (fun fact: I think most current browser engines spawned from that), or lynx if you're hardcore permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] mkll@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Brave is Chromium based permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Isn't it an independent fork? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* It's based on Chromium https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/blob/master/README.md This repository holds the build tools needed to build the Brave desktop browser for macOS, Windows, and Linux. In particular, it fetches and syncs code from the projects defined in package.json and src/brave/DEPS: Chromium [โฆ] brave-core Maintains patches for 3rd party Chromium code. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] aaaantoine@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Opera still exists but it's based on chromium now. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] kaioviski@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think Nyxt is not Chromium-based. Still too experimental to be used as single/main browser, but has some very interesting concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] albert180@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Nyxt uses WebKit permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Firefox is basically the only non-WebKit/Blink browser out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] rms1990@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is WebKit bad? Gnome uses it for their browser permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago WebKit is not inherently bad. The thing that makes it not great in my opinion actually has nothing to do with the tech in this instance, but instead has to do with monopolistic practices from both Apple (who directly uses and develops WebKit) and Google (who forked WebKit into Blink). Using Gecko browsers (Firefox and co.) en masse tells website operators that they should develop for that other option and officially support it. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] rms1990@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Is WebKit bad? Gnome uses it for their browser permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago WebKit is not inherently bad. The thing that makes it not great in my opinion actually has nothing to do with the tech in this instance, but instead has to do with monopolistic practices from both Apple (who directly uses and develops WebKit) and Google (who forked WebKit into Blink). Using Gecko browsers (Firefox and co.) en masse tells website operators that they should develop for that other option and officially support it. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] syboxez@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago WebKit is not inherently bad. The thing that makes it not great in my opinion actually has nothing to do with the tech in this instance, but instead has to do with monopolistic practices from both Apple (who directly uses and develops WebKit) and Google (who forked WebKit into Blink). Using Gecko browsers (Firefox and co.) en masse tells website operators that they should develop for that other option and officially support it. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Depending on the operating system this could be Safari on OSX, Firefox, Brave on basically anything, Opera, if it still exists, Konqueror on Linux (fun fact: I think most current browser engines spawned from that), or lynx if you're hardcore permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] mkll@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Brave is Chromium based permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Isn't it an independent fork? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* It's based on Chromium https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/blob/master/README.md This repository holds the build tools needed to build the Brave desktop browser for macOS, Windows, and Linux. In particular, it fetches and syncs code from the projects defined in package.json and src/brave/DEPS: Chromium [โฆ] brave-core Maintains patches for 3rd party Chromium code. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] aaaantoine@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Opera still exists but it's based on chromium now. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] mkll@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Brave is Chromium based permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Isn't it an independent fork? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* It's based on Chromium https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/blob/master/README.md This repository holds the build tools needed to build the Brave desktop browser for macOS, Windows, and Linux. In particular, it fetches and syncs code from the projects defined in package.json and src/brave/DEPS: Chromium [โฆ] brave-core Maintains patches for 3rd party Chromium code. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] ReaderTunesOctopus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Isn't it an independent fork? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* It's based on Chromium https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/blob/master/README.md This repository holds the build tools needed to build the Brave desktop browser for macOS, Windows, and Linux. In particular, it fetches and syncs code from the projects defined in package.json and src/brave/DEPS: Chromium [โฆ] brave-core Maintains patches for 3rd party Chromium code. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago* It's based on Chromium https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/blob/master/README.md This repository holds the build tools needed to build the Brave desktop browser for macOS, Windows, and Linux. In particular, it fetches and syncs code from the projects defined in package.json and src/brave/DEPS: Chromium [โฆ] brave-core Maintains patches for 3rd party Chromium code. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] aaaantoine@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Opera still exists but it's based on chromium now. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] kaioviski@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think Nyxt is not Chromium-based. Still too experimental to be used as single/main browser, but has some very interesting concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] albert180@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Nyxt uses WebKit permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] dtjones@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago Not entirely sure what the commenter was referring to, but it might be about tracking (Firefox has great anti-tracking and privacy tech). The real money on the web comes from ads, and specifically targeted ads. Targeted ads require that advertisement companies like Facebook and Google track you and build a profile based on your activity. Companies like reddit make money by helping to build these profiles and by delivering ads. If you can still be targeted by ads, the powers that be will continue to try and "make a buck" off the internet. If there is a market for targeted ads, it is likely that a service will be monetized for the sake of profit, which typically leads to situations like what we've seen with reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc... Privacy is essentially an ad-business killer in the modern web. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] alpena@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago Usually you can install/update Firefox (see Portable firefox) permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Chrome is proprietary software, so nobody can verify what it really does on your computer. Google also wants to kill adblockers. permalink fedilink source parent