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Hamas says no hostage will leave alive unless group's demands met (www.telegraph.co.uk)

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[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes the abolishment of the oppressive genocidal ethno state of israel is indeed their goal.

I'm pretty sure the raison d'être of Nelson Mandela and the ANC was to end the Apartheid in South Africa as well.

Violent resistance groups don't just magically spawn out of thin air.

[-] InformalTrifle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

They’re a terrorist organisation and use terrorist methods. They don’t even care if Palestinians get killed. Can’t believe you’re equating them with Nelson Mandela 😂

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Apartheid in South Africa didn't end with Mandela going on a hunger strike my friend. That's the funny story the US tells you afterwards

They regained their rights using the same methods that were used to take their rights away.

Violence.

Mandela was on the American "terror" watch list until 2008

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Yep. Him and Winnie were infamous for putting tyres around the necks of their victims, filling the tyres with petrol, then lighting em up. Amnesty international wouldn't go near him for a very long time. This came up in my Facebook memories a couple of days ago, the dude was a monster. Personally, I don't think the ends justified the means, but I know they did for many, and I know for even more they don't know the whole story...

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

It seems his wife Winnie was openly advocating for it while Mandela was in prison but I can't find him associating with it.

Necklacing was used by the black community to punish its members who were perceived as collaborators with the apartheid government.[2] Necklacing was primarily used on black police informants; the practice was often carried out in the name of the struggle, although the executive body of the African National Congress (ANC), the most broadly supported South African opposition movement, condemned it.[3][4] In 1986, Winnie Mandela, then-wife of the imprisoned Nelson Mandela, and who herself had endured torture and four imprisonments to a total of two years,[5] stated, "With our boxes of matches, and our necklaces, we shall liberate this country", which was widely seen as an explicit endorsement of necklacing.[6][7] This caused the ANC to initially distance itself from her,[8] although she later took on a number of official positions within the party.[8]

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Spear of the Nation was the paramilitary wing of the African National Congress (ANC), and was founded by Nelson Mandela.

Source.

[-] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago

Palestine is more of an ethnostate than israel lol.

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