▲ 848 ▼ Australia to triple fees on foreigners buying existing homes, penalise them if they leave properties empty (www.scmp.com) submitted 2 years ago by filoria@lemmy.ml to c/world@lemmy.world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Mate, I earn below median wage and I could buy a “holiday home”. This isn’t something fancy, it’s a shitty old house in the bush. What I can’t afford is a house where jobs and people are, the city. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dojan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think a lot of people hear holiday home and think like, tropical bungalow. A holiday home here in Sweden usually won't have a sewage connection, and oftentimes not even running water. You'd have to use a potty and bring potable water yourself. You could get these pretty cheap so long as you're in a position where you have some money left over after expenses. A proper house will easily be 10x the amount a holiday home is. There are fancier ones of course, that can basically double as a home. Anyone I know that has such a thing owns it as a family (as in grandparents, siblings, etc.). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think people are picturing that, because that's what's been happening elsewhere; foreign investors using luxury real estate as an investment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dojan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well yes, not saying those aren’t a thing, but they’re not the only type of holiday homes. It’s not unfeasible for a normal person living above subsistence to be able to afford a holiday home. Saying “oh you have a holiday home you’ve enough of an advantage” doesn’t really work in all cases. permalink fedilink source parent [+] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) A holiday home is a second home. If you don't have a home already and that's what you purchase, it's not your holiday home, it's your only home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago They mention "the city", I interpret it as the same situation as what used to be mine, owned my main residence in a city but not in THE city so prices are lower but most jobs are outside of the city I lived in, that allowed me to buy a second residence out in the woods for cheap, but I couldn't live there full time (no water in winter, floor isn't insulated). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you don’t live there, it’s not your home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're almost there. Just a little further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago You don’t get it mate. It’s okay though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then where do you live? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago In the house I rent? permalink fedilink source parent [–] minorninth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So wouldn’t the fees be proportional to the price? The added taxes on a tiny cheap holiday home would be cheap too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dojan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think a lot of people hear holiday home and think like, tropical bungalow. A holiday home here in Sweden usually won't have a sewage connection, and oftentimes not even running water. You'd have to use a potty and bring potable water yourself. You could get these pretty cheap so long as you're in a position where you have some money left over after expenses. A proper house will easily be 10x the amount a holiday home is. There are fancier ones of course, that can basically double as a home. Anyone I know that has such a thing owns it as a family (as in grandparents, siblings, etc.). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think people are picturing that, because that's what's been happening elsewhere; foreign investors using luxury real estate as an investment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dojan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well yes, not saying those aren’t a thing, but they’re not the only type of holiday homes. It’s not unfeasible for a normal person living above subsistence to be able to afford a holiday home. Saying “oh you have a holiday home you’ve enough of an advantage” doesn’t really work in all cases. permalink fedilink source parent [+] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think people are picturing that, because that's what's been happening elsewhere; foreign investors using luxury real estate as an investment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dojan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well yes, not saying those aren’t a thing, but they’re not the only type of holiday homes. It’s not unfeasible for a normal person living above subsistence to be able to afford a holiday home. Saying “oh you have a holiday home you’ve enough of an advantage” doesn’t really work in all cases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dojan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Well yes, not saying those aren’t a thing, but they’re not the only type of holiday homes. It’s not unfeasible for a normal person living above subsistence to be able to afford a holiday home. Saying “oh you have a holiday home you’ve enough of an advantage” doesn’t really work in all cases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) A holiday home is a second home. If you don't have a home already and that's what you purchase, it's not your holiday home, it's your only home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago They mention "the city", I interpret it as the same situation as what used to be mine, owned my main residence in a city but not in THE city so prices are lower but most jobs are outside of the city I lived in, that allowed me to buy a second residence out in the woods for cheap, but I couldn't live there full time (no water in winter, floor isn't insulated). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you don’t live there, it’s not your home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're almost there. Just a little further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago You don’t get it mate. It’s okay though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then where do you live? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago In the house I rent? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago They mention "the city", I interpret it as the same situation as what used to be mine, owned my main residence in a city but not in THE city so prices are lower but most jobs are outside of the city I lived in, that allowed me to buy a second residence out in the woods for cheap, but I couldn't live there full time (no water in winter, floor isn't insulated). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you don’t live there, it’s not your home. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're almost there. Just a little further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago You don’t get it mate. It’s okay though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then where do you live? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago In the house I rent? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're almost there. Just a little further. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago You don’t get it mate. It’s okay though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 2 years ago You don’t get it mate. It’s okay though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then where do you live? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 point 2 years ago In the house I rent? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] minorninth@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago So wouldn’t the fees be proportional to the price? The added taxes on a tiny cheap holiday home would be cheap too. permalink fedilink source parent