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[–] aaro@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (4 children) "Australian nationalist"? genuinely? that's fucking bizzare permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (7 children) hey that's not fair they uh actually have um their own uniquely innovative type of sushi that they er, invented or something of that sort https://www.theage.com.au/goodfood/eating-out/yes-australian-sushi-exists-get-over-it-argues-adam-liaw-20231123-p5em7w.html it's like regular sushi but they don't cut it wonderful stuff coming out of Australia they also put sprinkles on bread. which is an A-level gastronomic innovation in the Anglic realm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_bread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] buckykat@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm pretty sure the dutch invented the sprinkles thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) my whole life is a lie thought up by the dutch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buckykat@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Many people are saying this permalink fedilink source parent [–] borlax@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Dutch are just as bad… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago There’s 2 things I hate permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SocialistWombat@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago I'll die before I give up my fairy bread. Death to Australia, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, Australians are such bigots. I hate them all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago this but unironically permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Every Australian I've met have been pretty racist yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Its only as bad as any other anglo country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) In 1900 New Zealand was given a choice to join Australia as a state and one of the commonly cited reasons against joining was that NZers were worried that Australians were so racist that they would cause another war with the indigenous Maori people. Not that NZers at the time were treating Maori people with fairness and dignity, but Maori could at least vote and Australia was actively genociding the Tasmanian aboriginal people at the time so... Not exactly as bad as all other anglo countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) there's something very funny to me about turboracists who nevertheless draw the line somewhere. like NZ in the above story, or like the countless very racist northerners in the ACW who certainly did not want to live next to black people or treat them as equals, but were nevertheless willing to fucking die to end slavery. how do you get this kind of brainworm?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago In true Australian fashion, they’re more open about it permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago 😭 ✊ 🍆 💦 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago Damn. Imagine having to copy culinary ideas from the Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's actually OK to make new kinds of sushi. All the good sushi isn't authentically Japanese anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah except if you read the article about half way down it admits that "Australian sushi" is just a futomaki slightly different fillings. Pretty weak claim tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) With peking duck and shit in it. It's an entire roll served with stuff like peking duck. It's totally non standard sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* With peking duck and shit in it. terf island: tikka masala is BRITISH CUISINE terf desert: hold my vegemite With peking duck and shit in it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago Leave fairy bread alone! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have pavlova though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thing they stole from New Zealand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why did I just read the whole Wikipedia section on the origins of Pavlova in Australia and New Zealand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Wait until you hear about how Australia appropriated the Maori word "Manuka" to cash in on New Zealand successfully exporting Manuka honey. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) coloniser mindset permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago I think everyone should experience such a mindset (splattered all over the pavement and photographed as a piece for MoMA) permalink fedilink source parent [–] NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago It truly is something uniquely European, to go somewhere that is not Europe and then complain that there are too many non-Europeans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago It really isn't that bizarre. "Australian nationalist" just means "neo-nazi" but too cowardly to say it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago It's weird to be a nationalist for a nation with a foreign head of state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (7 children) hey that's not fair they uh actually have um their own uniquely innovative type of sushi that they er, invented or something of that sort https://www.theage.com.au/goodfood/eating-out/yes-australian-sushi-exists-get-over-it-argues-adam-liaw-20231123-p5em7w.html it's like regular sushi but they don't cut it wonderful stuff coming out of Australia they also put sprinkles on bread. which is an A-level gastronomic innovation in the Anglic realm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_bread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] buckykat@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm pretty sure the dutch invented the sprinkles thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) my whole life is a lie thought up by the dutch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buckykat@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Many people are saying this permalink fedilink source parent [–] borlax@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Dutch are just as bad… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago There’s 2 things I hate permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SocialistWombat@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago I'll die before I give up my fairy bread. Death to Australia, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, Australians are such bigots. I hate them all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago this but unironically permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Every Australian I've met have been pretty racist yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Its only as bad as any other anglo country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) In 1900 New Zealand was given a choice to join Australia as a state and one of the commonly cited reasons against joining was that NZers were worried that Australians were so racist that they would cause another war with the indigenous Maori people. Not that NZers at the time were treating Maori people with fairness and dignity, but Maori could at least vote and Australia was actively genociding the Tasmanian aboriginal people at the time so... Not exactly as bad as all other anglo countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) there's something very funny to me about turboracists who nevertheless draw the line somewhere. like NZ in the above story, or like the countless very racist northerners in the ACW who certainly did not want to live next to black people or treat them as equals, but were nevertheless willing to fucking die to end slavery. how do you get this kind of brainworm?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago In true Australian fashion, they’re more open about it permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago 😭 ✊ 🍆 💦 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago Damn. Imagine having to copy culinary ideas from the Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's actually OK to make new kinds of sushi. All the good sushi isn't authentically Japanese anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah except if you read the article about half way down it admits that "Australian sushi" is just a futomaki slightly different fillings. Pretty weak claim tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) With peking duck and shit in it. It's an entire roll served with stuff like peking duck. It's totally non standard sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* With peking duck and shit in it. terf island: tikka masala is BRITISH CUISINE terf desert: hold my vegemite With peking duck and shit in it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago Leave fairy bread alone! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have pavlova though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thing they stole from New Zealand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why did I just read the whole Wikipedia section on the origins of Pavlova in Australia and New Zealand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Wait until you hear about how Australia appropriated the Maori word "Manuka" to cash in on New Zealand successfully exporting Manuka honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm pretty sure the dutch invented the sprinkles thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) my whole life is a lie thought up by the dutch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buckykat@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Many people are saying this permalink fedilink source parent [–] borlax@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Dutch are just as bad… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago There’s 2 things I hate permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) my whole life is a lie thought up by the dutch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buckykat@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Many people are saying this permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Many people are saying this permalink fedilink source parent
[–] borlax@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the Dutch are just as bad… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago There’s 2 things I hate permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago There’s 2 things I hate permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] SocialistWombat@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago I'll die before I give up my fairy bread. Death to Australia, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, Australians are such bigots. I hate them all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago this but unironically permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Every Australian I've met have been pretty racist yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Its only as bad as any other anglo country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) In 1900 New Zealand was given a choice to join Australia as a state and one of the commonly cited reasons against joining was that NZers were worried that Australians were so racist that they would cause another war with the indigenous Maori people. Not that NZers at the time were treating Maori people with fairness and dignity, but Maori could at least vote and Australia was actively genociding the Tasmanian aboriginal people at the time so... Not exactly as bad as all other anglo countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) there's something very funny to me about turboracists who nevertheless draw the line somewhere. like NZ in the above story, or like the countless very racist northerners in the ACW who certainly did not want to live next to black people or treat them as equals, but were nevertheless willing to fucking die to end slavery. how do you get this kind of brainworm?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago In true Australian fashion, they’re more open about it permalink fedilink source parent [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago 😭 ✊ 🍆 💦 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago this but unironically permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Every Australian I've met have been pretty racist yeah permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Its only as bad as any other anglo country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) In 1900 New Zealand was given a choice to join Australia as a state and one of the commonly cited reasons against joining was that NZers were worried that Australians were so racist that they would cause another war with the indigenous Maori people. Not that NZers at the time were treating Maori people with fairness and dignity, but Maori could at least vote and Australia was actively genociding the Tasmanian aboriginal people at the time so... Not exactly as bad as all other anglo countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) there's something very funny to me about turboracists who nevertheless draw the line somewhere. like NZ in the above story, or like the countless very racist northerners in the ACW who certainly did not want to live next to black people or treat them as equals, but were nevertheless willing to fucking die to end slavery. how do you get this kind of brainworm?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago In true Australian fashion, they’re more open about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Its only as bad as any other anglo country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) In 1900 New Zealand was given a choice to join Australia as a state and one of the commonly cited reasons against joining was that NZers were worried that Australians were so racist that they would cause another war with the indigenous Maori people. Not that NZers at the time were treating Maori people with fairness and dignity, but Maori could at least vote and Australia was actively genociding the Tasmanian aboriginal people at the time so... Not exactly as bad as all other anglo countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) there's something very funny to me about turboracists who nevertheless draw the line somewhere. like NZ in the above story, or like the countless very racist northerners in the ACW who certainly did not want to live next to black people or treat them as equals, but were nevertheless willing to fucking die to end slavery. how do you get this kind of brainworm?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago In true Australian fashion, they’re more open about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) In 1900 New Zealand was given a choice to join Australia as a state and one of the commonly cited reasons against joining was that NZers were worried that Australians were so racist that they would cause another war with the indigenous Maori people. Not that NZers at the time were treating Maori people with fairness and dignity, but Maori could at least vote and Australia was actively genociding the Tasmanian aboriginal people at the time so... Not exactly as bad as all other anglo countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) there's something very funny to me about turboracists who nevertheless draw the line somewhere. like NZ in the above story, or like the countless very racist northerners in the ACW who certainly did not want to live next to black people or treat them as equals, but were nevertheless willing to fucking die to end slavery. how do you get this kind of brainworm?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) there's something very funny to me about turboracists who nevertheless draw the line somewhere. like NZ in the above story, or like the countless very racist northerners in the ACW who certainly did not want to live next to black people or treat them as equals, but were nevertheless willing to fucking die to end slavery. how do you get this kind of brainworm?! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) At that time NZ Settlers had just gotten out of a very destructive war with the Maori. Maori people fought exceptionally well and some historians credit them with inventing proto-trench warfare. The white settlers had to cry to Britain for help, and the war was so expensive the Brits basically told the settlers that they weren't getting bailed out again. In other words the KKKrakas were afraid that the dipshit Aussies would kick off round 2 with the Maori and get them all killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent [–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago if only... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) So the Aussies weren't more racist. NZ settlers were just trying to keep things on the DL. Being afraid of repercussions for being racist isn't being less racist. NZ is like Canada. The government is systemic racism personified but they say sorry as they twist the knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago Trying to read up on it now, but to my knowledge (which is out of date by a few years) neither Australia nor Canada have nation-wide programs which are analogous to the Treaty of Waitangi claims process which has paid out significant compensation and granted rights to indigenous peoples? The closest I can find is some local land back program in Tasmania (where most of the Aboriginal people were already genocided) and some vague mentions of modern treaties between the Canadian govt and First Nations groups surrounding limited rights and land back. Like yeah maybe the average NZ KKKraka isn't any less racist than an Australian or Canadian (debatable imo, but not falsifiable either way) but NZ seems to still be the least bad Anglo settler colony because it's still trying to do something tangible to uphold the original treaty between the Maori and the Anglos. Obviously it's not enough and will never be enough, especially with a historically flawed process and a new right wing govt. Least bad is still a loooong way off from good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* The Maoris were just better organized or something and more keen on (or able to) kicking them out than the Australian Natives were which makes sense given the size and corresponding disunity of Australia tribal cultures permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago In true Australian fashion, they’re more open about it permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago Damn. Imagine having to copy culinary ideas from the Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago Damn. Imagine having to copy culinary ideas from the Dutch. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It's actually OK to make new kinds of sushi. All the good sushi isn't authentically Japanese anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah except if you read the article about half way down it admits that "Australian sushi" is just a futomaki slightly different fillings. Pretty weak claim tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) With peking duck and shit in it. It's an entire roll served with stuff like peking duck. It's totally non standard sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* With peking duck and shit in it. terf island: tikka masala is BRITISH CUISINE terf desert: hold my vegemite With peking duck and shit in it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah except if you read the article about half way down it admits that "Australian sushi" is just a futomaki slightly different fillings. Pretty weak claim tbh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) With peking duck and shit in it. It's an entire roll served with stuff like peking duck. It's totally non standard sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* With peking duck and shit in it. terf island: tikka masala is BRITISH CUISINE terf desert: hold my vegemite With peking duck and shit in it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) With peking duck and shit in it. It's an entire roll served with stuff like peking duck. It's totally non standard sushi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* With peking duck and shit in it. terf island: tikka masala is BRITISH CUISINE terf desert: hold my vegemite With peking duck and shit in it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* With peking duck and shit in it. terf island: tikka masala is BRITISH CUISINE terf desert: hold my vegemite With peking duck and shit in it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago Leave fairy bread alone! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) They also have pavlova though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thing they stole from New Zealand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why did I just read the whole Wikipedia section on the origins of Pavlova in Australia and New Zealand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Wait until you hear about how Australia appropriated the Maori word "Manuka" to cash in on New Zealand successfully exporting Manuka honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) The thing they stole from New Zealand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why did I just read the whole Wikipedia section on the origins of Pavlova in Australia and New Zealand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Wait until you hear about how Australia appropriated the Maori word "Manuka" to cash in on New Zealand successfully exporting Manuka honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why did I just read the whole Wikipedia section on the origins of Pavlova in Australia and New Zealand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Wait until you hear about how Australia appropriated the Maori word "Manuka" to cash in on New Zealand successfully exporting Manuka honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago Wait until you hear about how Australia appropriated the Maori word "Manuka" to cash in on New Zealand successfully exporting Manuka honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) coloniser mindset permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago I think everyone should experience such a mindset (splattered all over the pavement and photographed as a piece for MoMA) permalink fedilink source parent [–] NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago It truly is something uniquely European, to go somewhere that is not Europe and then complain that there are too many non-Europeans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago I think everyone should experience such a mindset (splattered all over the pavement and photographed as a piece for MoMA) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago It truly is something uniquely European, to go somewhere that is not Europe and then complain that there are too many non-Europeans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago It really isn't that bizarre. "Australian nationalist" just means "neo-nazi" but too cowardly to say it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago It's weird to be a nationalist for a nation with a foreign head of state. permalink fedilink source parent