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A mother and her 14-year-old daughter are advocating for better protections for victims after AI-generated nude images of the teen and other female classmates were circulated at a high school in New Jersey.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the country, officials are investigating an incident involving a teenage boy who allegedly used artificial intelligence to create and distribute similar images of other students – also teen girls - that attend a high school in suburban Seattle, Washington.

The disturbing cases have put a spotlight yet again on explicit AI-generated material that overwhelmingly harms women and children and is booming online at an unprecedented rate. According to an analysis by independent researcher Genevieve Oh that was shared with The Associated Press, more than 143,000 new deepfake videos were posted online this year, which surpasses every other year combined.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Make "producing real or simulated CSAM illegal?"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Isn't it already? Has it provided any sort of protection? Many things in this world are illegal, and nobody cares.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I would argue that if CSAM was legal, there would be more of it...meaning it being illegal provides a level of protection.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder why are you being downvoted, something being illegal puts fear in most people to not do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I've been wondering about this lately, but I'm not sure how much of an effect this has. There are millions of people in prison, and many of those will go on to offend again. Making things illegal can be seen as an agreement to a social contract (in a democracy), drive the activity underground (probably good thing in many cases), and prevent businesses (legal entities) from engaging in the activity; but I'm not sure how well it works on an individual level of deterrence. Like, if there were no laws, I can not really think of a law I would break that I wouldn't already break regardless. I guess I'd just be more open about it.

Though, people who cause harm to others should be removed from society, and ideally, quickly rehabilitated, and released back into society as a productive member.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It is where I'm at. Draw Lisa Simpson nude and you get a visit from the law. Dunno what the punishment is though. A fine? Jail? Can't say.

Edit: Apparently I was wrong, it has to be a realistic drawing. See here: 2010/0064/COD doc.nr 10335/1/10 REV 1

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Lisa Simpson is shambles reading this

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about making depictions of other crimes? Should depictions of theft be illegal? Depictions of murder?

Why should depictions of one crime be made illegal, but depictions of other heinous crimes remain legal?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because a picture of someone robbing my house doesn't revictimize me. Even if it's simulated, every time they run into some rando who recognizes them or every time a potential employer runs a background/social media check, it impacts the victim again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A picture of a cartoon child having sex doesn't victimize you either, the same way a drawing of a robbery doesn't victimize you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean being raped. What it does is let pedos feel like it's OK to be pedos.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Lol just like violent video games makes people think it's ok to be violent in real life?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Who is being victimized with a drawing of Lisa Simpson?