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[+] rodolfo@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago (2 children) happy holidays isn't more inclusive, it's just generic. i feel included in a community when they salute me as they would with one of their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which is what you’d use if you didn’t know what religion they practice if at all Otherwise, sensibly, you’d wish them a happy whatever it is they celebrate. Not everyone is cool with having their religion assumed on so it’s not “generic” it’s respectful permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. a Muslim once saluted me with the end of Ramadan holyday. that day i met a friend. parted ways, we still greet each other when we meet. dude did not assume anything about me, he just wanted to share and make friends. being greeted with one's culture and being not ok with it, it means you're not an educated person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I would rather be seen for my own culture and values and not mislabeled Moral of the story in case you couldn’t tell from the chunk of downvotes your original post received, people would rather receive a “generic” holiday greeting than to be stereotypically labeled with a religion, or constantly have someone rubbing their faith in your face if you aren’t religious at all. “Generic” holiday greeting is more likely to convey: “I wish you happy times this holiday season, whatever you do or don’t celebrate” As opposed to walking up to a Muslim dude and wish them a happy Ramadan off some shallow ass judgements. Alternatively, wishing me a merry Kwanzaa or a Merry Hanukkah, while it may be important to you, means nothing to me at all. That wish doesn’t have roots. So to me, you’re just a shallow person who doesn’t actually want me to enjoy my holiday time, you just want to cheer for your team. Edit: fuck it I’ll bite, pray tell what’s your current religion after meeting your friend? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you'd say I'm an atheist. I'm from Italy, where catholicism still heavily influences society. someone in this thread said that my opinion is valid only for me, while you judged and actually insulted me. there's no conversation in this place. may I know where you're from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person. so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LittleTransPunk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your opinion only applies to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) as do yours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Unless you’re actually speaking on behalf of a growing, popular group which has very obviously made their opinion known and yet you try to muddy the waters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which is what you’d use if you didn’t know what religion they practice if at all Otherwise, sensibly, you’d wish them a happy whatever it is they celebrate. Not everyone is cool with having their religion assumed on so it’s not “generic” it’s respectful permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. a Muslim once saluted me with the end of Ramadan holyday. that day i met a friend. parted ways, we still greet each other when we meet. dude did not assume anything about me, he just wanted to share and make friends. being greeted with one's culture and being not ok with it, it means you're not an educated person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I would rather be seen for my own culture and values and not mislabeled Moral of the story in case you couldn’t tell from the chunk of downvotes your original post received, people would rather receive a “generic” holiday greeting than to be stereotypically labeled with a religion, or constantly have someone rubbing their faith in your face if you aren’t religious at all. “Generic” holiday greeting is more likely to convey: “I wish you happy times this holiday season, whatever you do or don’t celebrate” As opposed to walking up to a Muslim dude and wish them a happy Ramadan off some shallow ass judgements. Alternatively, wishing me a merry Kwanzaa or a Merry Hanukkah, while it may be important to you, means nothing to me at all. That wish doesn’t have roots. So to me, you’re just a shallow person who doesn’t actually want me to enjoy my holiday time, you just want to cheer for your team. Edit: fuck it I’ll bite, pray tell what’s your current religion after meeting your friend? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you'd say I'm an atheist. I'm from Italy, where catholicism still heavily influences society. someone in this thread said that my opinion is valid only for me, while you judged and actually insulted me. there's no conversation in this place. may I know where you're from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person. so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I don't know. a Muslim once saluted me with the end of Ramadan holyday. that day i met a friend. parted ways, we still greet each other when we meet. dude did not assume anything about me, he just wanted to share and make friends. being greeted with one's culture and being not ok with it, it means you're not an educated person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I would rather be seen for my own culture and values and not mislabeled Moral of the story in case you couldn’t tell from the chunk of downvotes your original post received, people would rather receive a “generic” holiday greeting than to be stereotypically labeled with a religion, or constantly have someone rubbing their faith in your face if you aren’t religious at all. “Generic” holiday greeting is more likely to convey: “I wish you happy times this holiday season, whatever you do or don’t celebrate” As opposed to walking up to a Muslim dude and wish them a happy Ramadan off some shallow ass judgements. Alternatively, wishing me a merry Kwanzaa or a Merry Hanukkah, while it may be important to you, means nothing to me at all. That wish doesn’t have roots. So to me, you’re just a shallow person who doesn’t actually want me to enjoy my holiday time, you just want to cheer for your team. Edit: fuck it I’ll bite, pray tell what’s your current religion after meeting your friend? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you'd say I'm an atheist. I'm from Italy, where catholicism still heavily influences society. someone in this thread said that my opinion is valid only for me, while you judged and actually insulted me. there's no conversation in this place. may I know where you're from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person. so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I would rather be seen for my own culture and values and not mislabeled Moral of the story in case you couldn’t tell from the chunk of downvotes your original post received, people would rather receive a “generic” holiday greeting than to be stereotypically labeled with a religion, or constantly have someone rubbing their faith in your face if you aren’t religious at all. “Generic” holiday greeting is more likely to convey: “I wish you happy times this holiday season, whatever you do or don’t celebrate” As opposed to walking up to a Muslim dude and wish them a happy Ramadan off some shallow ass judgements. Alternatively, wishing me a merry Kwanzaa or a Merry Hanukkah, while it may be important to you, means nothing to me at all. That wish doesn’t have roots. So to me, you’re just a shallow person who doesn’t actually want me to enjoy my holiday time, you just want to cheer for your team. Edit: fuck it I’ll bite, pray tell what’s your current religion after meeting your friend? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you'd say I'm an atheist. I'm from Italy, where catholicism still heavily influences society. someone in this thread said that my opinion is valid only for me, while you judged and actually insulted me. there's no conversation in this place. may I know where you're from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person. so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you'd say I'm an atheist. I'm from Italy, where catholicism still heavily influences society. someone in this thread said that my opinion is valid only for me, while you judged and actually insulted me. there's no conversation in this place. may I know where you're from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person. so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person. so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person. so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LittleTransPunk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your opinion only applies to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) as do yours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Unless you’re actually speaking on behalf of a growing, popular group which has very obviously made their opinion known and yet you try to muddy the waters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) as do yours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Unless you’re actually speaking on behalf of a growing, popular group which has very obviously made their opinion known and yet you try to muddy the waters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Unless you’re actually speaking on behalf of a growing, popular group which has very obviously made their opinion known and yet you try to muddy the waters. permalink fedilink source parent