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Top Russian court bans LGBT movement as 'extremist' (www.reuters.com)
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[–] 20 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Have you forgotten that the Donbas has been getting bombed by actual western funded nazis since 2014?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    Is that Russia? How does the suffering of the people of Donbas influence the people of Kazan or Volgograd, or the Russian leadership into taking bizarre, disgusting, and reactionary decisions like this?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Is that Russia?

    As recently as 1991 yes; Its up for them to decide and the consenus in the area has been Russian unification for a while now.

    How does the suffering of the people of Donbas influence the people of Kazan or Volgograd, or the Russian leadership into taking bizarre, disgusting, and reactionary decisions like this?

    How is occupying a position in the western hegemony, the one who is funding the needless slaughter of east ukraine justification for the uncoupling of support from the people that our governments are killing?

    I think that if you sincerely want things to get better for LGBT+ comrades in Russia, which I do; it comes with the war stopping.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    “Things to get better”

    This law was passed this past week.

    How does the death and destruction in the Donbas justify this reactionary policy? How will the war ending rectify this? Why would they not just continue down this reactionary path?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The law passed this week, 10 years into a war with the west.

    No ones justifying anything, its a material analysis of the dialectics at play.

    War enables right wing reactionary policies to flourish due to unity becoming the priority in the face of a percieved existenstial threat, as such its a given that the fastest route to the war ending is favourable for conditions improving.

    And lastly, do you seriously think a forever war will be the better path?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    A law that is built upon decades of rising hate and discrimination, this is just giving that a rubber stamp. It has been terrible for a while. Watch the Russian news, they speak about the community like vermin and pests.

    Why am I to believe that the war ending would rectify this? Would that not invigorate those same right wing policies? They would be proven correct, and be seen as strong, giving them even more ground to build upon.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    A law that is built upon decades of rising hate and discrimination, this is just giving that a rubber stamp. It has been terrible for a while. Watch the Russian news, they speak about the community like vermin and pests.

    Thats why you need to trace this back to 1991, where the justification for this started. The USSR was actually starting to liberalize laws regarding LGBT+ people and I think they would have followed the same timeline as China/Cuba in modern times if that never happened. Thats why the ongoing war is connected to this, because the tensions created with the collapse of the USSR have never been resolved.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I fully agree with you, but that doesn’t answer the question. This is still an unjustifiable and disgusting reactionary path.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I agree with you comrade, my position is ceasefire and LGBT+ and communist liberation in Russia; I do see the war as degrading conditions and enabling this path, and I think the route out of it requires a ceasefire and concessions from Ukraine.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I truly hope you are right. I agree with your stance, but if we are truthful then all we can say is that only time will tell.

    I also I didn’t mean to be hostile with you, this is just a very sore subject, and it’s painful when some people blindly push their “critical” support at any cost, which in this case might happen to be my life. You have not done that however, and I hope you have a good day comrade. Thanks for your responses.

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