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[–] 90 points 2 years ago

This is why we keep the "critical" in "critical support", comrades. What a hellworld we live in where this dumpster country is the second biggest threat to american hegemony.

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  • [+] 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I thought about that too... Aren't you strengthening rainbow imperialism by doing this sort of bullshit? You're essentially giving out ammo like candy to western liberals who are now going to screech even louder - "muh LGBT rights in Ruzzia!". At the same time, you're missing out on the opportunity to say "look, the West is full of shit, they only pretend to care about gay rights, but we here don't do these empty gestures". Not to mention that innocent LGBT people will get hurt because of this by being a political pawn.

    Comrade Lenin said it 100+ years ago about Jewish people - "they are not the enemy, the capitalists are". A century passes - the game is still the same, they just found a new group to attack.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago*

    It's because "LGBT is imperialism!!1!" is just an excuse. The real reason they are doing this is, simply enough, because Russia's leadership is very conservative. Conservatives gonna conservative, they just need to present their target minority as a ploy from the enemy and voilà, persecution justified.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Yeah this is straight up reactionary shit. They say it's not meant to persecute people with different sexual orientations, rather just target "the movement", but wtf does that even mean? How do they even legally define what "the LGBT movement" is? Do they think that people are card-carrying members of some official LGBT organization? This is so vague that it allows basically any interpretation that they decide is politically expedient at any given time.

    Depending on public opinion this could range from being virtually a nothing burger that will only be used to go after western sponsored political opposition groups (which would be foreign interference anyway, Russia already has laws for that), all the way to making life a nightmare for queer people and trying to completely erase them from public visibility. Basically what will happen is up to what the mood in the general Russian public is at any given time and how much pushback there is when the government oversteps, but unfortunately at the moment a lot of Russians have very reactionary views on this subject.

    The sad part is that i'm not sure that the outcome would be any different even if the ruling party was a communist one, at least if it chose to tail the masses on this issue. It's a difficult problem to solve because a vanguard party should not be tailing the masses but it also should not impose completely unpopular policies that the masses are not yet ready for. The correct thing to do is to prepare the people for more progressive policy with a thorough campaign of education and normalization.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago

    They say it's not meant to persecute people with different sexual orientations, rather just target "the movement"

    This shit has me so baffled. "We don't hate queer people we're just gonna ban their most visible movement and make it illegal to teach sex education that isn't heteronormative"

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The sad part is that i’m not sure that the outcome would be any different even if the ruling party was a communist one, at least if it chose to tail the masses on this issue.

    At the very least there wouldn’t have been the reactionary backslide due to the return of the power of the church (especially the reactionary sections that were previously exiled).

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was thinking more along the lines of if tomorrow the communists seized power and had to govern a country that has already undergone this reactionary backslide. Of course if the SU never fell the circumstances and the social attitudes would be entirely different today, but we can't change the past, only the future.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Y'know I get this is supposed to be against "rainbow capitalism", but with them also promoting the whole "traditional family values" bullshit it's certainly not a good look.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Cheap political points at the expense of vulnerable minorities, perhaps to create a possibility of accusing them of the ills of capitalism later, once the contradictions start biting down the road.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago

    Yet another reason for me to be labeled extremist

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Why do we keep catching strays 😭

    I don’t understand the motive. I know the West weaponizes us for everything, is it because of that?

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Everyone catches strays, like when the LGBT death squad plants their rainbow flag on gaza or the US posts about their LGBT attack helicopter crew. The system alienates and fragments everyone by tricking one group it hates it slightly less than another. If you aren't principled, it's easy to buy into it.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)
  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Reminder to the USSR widows that Putin and modern Russia are not our friends.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    At first I was skeptical but it checks out, they’ve been misinterpreting people existing as Gay or Trans as some sorta Western delicacy or some reactionary nonsense for a lil while now. Extremely upsetting that THIS is one of the topics of criticism in Russia’s critical support.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago

    They haven’t been “misinterpreting” anything. It’s a political weapon with which they can divert attention to a made up enemy to distract from their failings.

    This the bread and butter tactic of capitalists and fascists. Blame immigrants, or the gays, or the Jews. Anyone but themselves.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Live "free speech activist" reaction:

    porky-happy smuglord so-true

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (41 children)

    Alright Z Posters, how do Ya`ll justify this?

    Come on, you over there in Dongistan, tell me how Putin is "Based" And will help communism return to Russia?

    Russian Nationalists infiltrating Marxist circles honestly is just annoying and I have zero tolerance on that.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I think I speak for most everyone when I say that this isn’t based, but marginally better than the Nazis that Ukraine brings into their ranks and radicalize other troops to accept Fascist-friendly brigades. Everyone here should criticize Russia in their many faults at the same time. That’s the beauty of the Dialectical Method, we can point out shortcomings and successes and address them as they are, not how we would like them to be.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Communism is the only ideology at the present which actually gets better over time, rather than just decaying into fascism. I see a lot of anticommunists point to their past failings or current flaws and there's a reason they ignore things like plans for the future; because it would make them look like a nazi. They can almost frame themselves as the antifascists even while all their actions point towards a fascist future.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's a very good point. Libs say, 'How can you be a communist, don't you know how bad it was when people tried it?'

    (Ignoring the fact that it has always been good, actually, on balance.) The answer is, 'Unlike capitalists, we have no reason to do what failed before.'

    Hence why China, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, DPRK have their own problems—but almost none of which are the same as those that happened in the USSR.

    It's only liberals who say, 'This is capitalism, tough shit if you don't like it, things will get better in however many years. And yes, we plan to do all the stuff that's always been horrific, thank you. No, I don't understand contradiction, why do you ask?'

    As that's built into the bourgeois outlook, they simply cannot comprehend how differently communists think.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    The Russian government can have reactionary positions when it comes to LGBT issues, and yet still be the main force in the world today killing nazis who would like nothing more than to wipe LGBT people off the face of the earth.

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