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What you guys are hosting instead of Nextcloud? I'm sick of it. (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I am hosting more than 10 services currently but only Nextcloud sends me errors periodically and only Nextcloud is super extremely painfully slow. I quit this sh*t. No more troubleshooting and optimization.

There are mainly 4 services in Nextcloud I'm using:

  • Files: as simple server for upload and download binaries
  • Calendar (with DAVx5): as sync server without web UI
  • Notes: simple note-taking
  • Network folder: mounted on Linux dolphin

Could you recommend me the alternatives for these? All services are supposed to be exposed by HTTPS, so authentication like login is needed. And I've tried note-taking apps like Joplin or trillium but couldn't like it.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Experiencing the same, a good CPU and lots of RAM would resolve the issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Even if you ran a basic sqlite nexcloud, if properly optimized, you can deal with millions of files like its nothing. And that is the issue, the bugs and lacking optimization..

4650g + 64GB ram + Mysql and it was file locking on just a 21k 10GB folder constantly.

I have written apps (in Go) that do similar and process data 100 times faster then nextcloud. Hell, my scrapers are faster then nextcloud in a local netwerk, and that is dealing with external data, over the internet.

Its BADLY designed software that puts the blame on the consumer to get bigger and better hardware, for what is essentially, early 2000 functionality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mysql and it was file locking on just a 21k 10GB folder constantly

It'll definitely do that if you keep your database on a network share with spinning disks.

Spin up a container with sqlite in a ram disk and point it to your same data location. Most of the problems go away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It'll definitely do that if you keep your database on a network share with spinning disks.

Database and Nextcloud where on a 4TB NVME drive ... in Mysql with plenty of cache/memory assigned to it. Not my first rodeo, ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’m running on an SSD as a VM on 10yr old laptop and have had very few issues compared to running on Raspis in the last. It’s not my first rodeo either and found Debian with NexCloudPi setup script worked the best, then restore from backup. The WebUI is performing great as well as bookmarks, contacts, calendar, video chats and most things I’ve thrown at it. NVME may be overkill but the combination of solid CPU, RAM and Disk IO should alleviate any problems. My hunch is there are other resource constraints or bottlenecks at play, perhaps DDOS or other attacks (experienced that for sure and you can test by dropping your firewall ingress rules to confirm).

Also, this is FOSS and I find the features and usability are better than anything else out there, especially with Letsencrypt.