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During Leverkusens match last saturday their fans showed a banner with the title "There's many music styles - but only two genders" (www.express.de)
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[–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

Imagine being so pressed about the existence of trans people that you make a whole banner about it to proudly display at a match like it's something most people in that stadium care to see? What's the point

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Don't trans people agree that there are 2 genders? They transition from one gender to the other. That's why Buddhist counties like Thailand accept trans folks because in Buddhism it's believed to be a good thing to experience life as men and as a woman.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not really. Gender is different from sex. When someone says there are only two genders what theyre usually talking about is male and female

    gender identity is much more of a spectrum and more distant from sex. Someones sex could be biologically male, but that doesnt matter as much as their gender identity is, idk feminine looking non-binary. And that excludes all the weird shit biology also does like intersex people

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yes and no. Some do, but many don't believe in the gender binary and see it as a spectrum of countless genders.

    You might be thinking of sexes, but some don't even believe in 2 sexes. But that is mostly semantics, depends how you count any genetic disorder, intersex condition or mutation.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    What's the point

    as with most political banners, internet ultras points, attention from the press and "credibility" for "defending their values".
    Extensive media coverage of every single controversial banner and internet hooliganism have made it so that even the shittiest and tiniest ultra group can make a 20€ banner to go viral amongst circles that cover stadium politics and, if it's bad or controversial enough, even beyond that to the point where things make it to, say, big newspapers or reddit.
    All this does bring the group a lot of visibility and """"positive"""" coverage hence the reason why you're constantly reading about this type of banner made by ultras groups from plastic clubs who are starved for any bit of attention and respect.

    Also the left has basically fled the stands in droves between the 70s and 90s all over Europe, there's a few exceptions but most of these people genuinely hold these beliefs so writing them out for the world to see is kind of a win-win to them

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    I assume it is to stir up shit, get more rivalries going. Also looking at the twitter post to gain more fans? I saw this post yesterday and pretty much every highly liked comment under this picture was applauding the banner.

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