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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Somebody remind them there's a difference between gender and sex

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That very basic biological fact is way above the mental comprehension of these knuckle-draggers.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

To be fair the german "Geschlecht" can refer to either gender or sex. Their message is pretty clear though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Mate they can’t support a pharmaceutical company

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This will be a fun thread for a Monday morning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Imagine being so obsessed with what's in other people's pants you do this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Am I missing context? Why are they refering to a ";)"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (45 children)

Bayer Leverkusen is seen in Germany as a plastic club by a lot of fans, mostly because they have distanced themselves from their working class roots. They have a family friendly atmosphere and stadium. As a result a part of the ultra fanbase is trying to distance themselves from that clean image by being edgy and coming up with shocking statements.

They have a cult mascot, "der Zitronenmann", they use as a "spokesperson to" say controversial shit trying to get attention and stay relevant. They have provoked and picked fights with rivals as well, mainly Bremen and Koln.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Bremen and Koln

of course lol

Every right-wing ultras group hates those clubs. Respectively, they're seen as the "woke club" and "gay club" by the far-right ultras.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Just want to show my flair here to confirm your answer. It's embarrassing as fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (74 children)

What is it about anti-trans people that they are so fucking obsessed with trans people? Like, they make hating trans people a core tenant of their entire character.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (25 children)

Hating gay people isn't as popular anymore so the right has moved on to the next group they hate.

30 years ago they made banners like this about gay people instead. 30 years before that it was about feminism. The right will always find some group they hate and claim is destroying society.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Wait, maybe I'm being ignorant, but what do trans issues have to do with the gender binary? If someone transitions, they're generally MTF or FTM, which could still be understood as binary, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Trying for force something on people usually comes with a reaction

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How is that banner connected to trans people? (Not a hater, I'm geniunely asking.)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The two groups that disproportionately shout louder than their ‘opposition’ are anti-trans people and anti-vegan people.

There are two genders and you’ve just eaten two steaks - I could not give less of a shit about your attention seeking bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

*tenet. But yeah, absolutely true.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

trans ppl are one of most marginalized groups who also have barely any representation in the public media, its a prime target for bullying when youre a horrible bigot, online spaces turn more and more into violent echo chambers so ppl get radicalized harder and faster than like 10 years ago.

Those ppl spend a lot of time online and Twitter's new boss is openly pushig and supporting anti-trans voices for example. German Twitter is especially hateful and barely moderated.
Not to mention that a *lot* of Germans are still/again not rly socially progressive

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

There's actually 3 genders in German grammar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (23 children)

One issue here is that "Geschlechter" was translated as "genders" in the headline, while the word can also be translated as "sexes", which does make a big difference. I'm not sure though what relevance the existence of two biological sexes has for those fans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Football has always had a political side. Those fans showed their political colors I guess

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

For anyone wondering, it's Er/Sie/Es (He/She/it)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Imagine being so pressed about the existence of trans people that you make a whole banner about it to proudly display at a match like it's something most people in that stadium care to see? What's the point

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Relax, it's just a bunch of raging populist right wing Germans seeking to erase the existence of people they don't care for. When has that ever led to real trouble?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am a Leverkusen hater now.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Factually right but a weird thing to bring into the stadium.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (19 children)

"We're about to lose the best manager we ever had, how can we convince him to stay with the best fans in the world?"

"Lads I have a fantastic idea"

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Everything like his should be kept out of football. You're there to watch football, not make political statements

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

But i was having a conversation on here recently where a Leverkusen fan told me that their ultras had zero right wing element! Surely I wasn’t lied to on the internet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's not the first time Leverkusen fans looked sketchy, makes me even more proud the Schickeria actively intigrated rainbow flags to their matchday material

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It is ridicoulous that these days event as blant and obvious statements like that one can be controversive and offend anyone. Next up: Water is wet

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