Agree. Fans (peasants) wants celebrities to stand up for them, no matter what the political view is, and when they mess up they get all mad. No shit, theyre celebrities. Not politicians or activists.

I generally agree with you but just playing devil's advocate, I think Rashford used his voice and position well to make good effective change.

But yet they have immense influence and use it to try and take serious stances, sometimes with success. I agree with you they're terrible role models but the problem is they don't know how to shut up about things they're clueless about

“Excel” is an overstatement for Jordan Henderson. Dude was my team’s captain for 10 years but I couldn’t resist

I'd normally agree however a lot of footballers don't come from prestigious backgrounds. Jordan or certainly a lot of his colleagues would come from a hugely diverse background. The one area he could have a voice is diversity. He championed a positive stance for many years and this move showed the world his diversity values were paper bill then.

This isn't generally true of footballers, lots of them come from normal working class families and have an idea of what life is like for average people.

See Marcus Rashford for one, he is so passionate about tacking poverty because he lived through it, and he isn't an anomaly, there are so many footballers that grew up in rough circumstances past and present.

I partly disagree with this.

Footballers are ordinary people like you and me and therefore their opinions on anything have as much value as any. Anyone can be passionate about something regardless of their job, status or wealth.

Whether you choose to value their individual opinion is up to you but to blanket disregard something someone who isn’t an expert in is wrong imo.

You should generally be coming at it the other way and valuing an experts opinion in higher regard.

Mhh

But imagine growing up as a queer Liverpool fan from Liverpool from a city where the rest of the country/media and politicians ostracise us from everyone and don’t welcome us anyways. And then imagine two of the only men you have been able to trust and idolise throughout your life who have always said they support you and will stand up for you just abandoning you for money.

Will make to remember that… until a celebrity shares my view on any topic

I think footballers can be an exception because usually they're people who were raised in a working class family and have seen their family struggle, so they usually will have a bit of life experience. Different from all the nepo-babies in the music and film industry