▲ 198 ▼ Are you REALLY a fan? (startrek.website) submitted 2 years ago by Lydia_K@startrek.website to c/risa@startrek.website 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (19 children) I can clearly see you left out the Indiana Jones. Not a fan. permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] eva_sieve@startrek.website 18 points 2 years ago* (17 children) Don't think they're including shuttlecraft. It's a bit hard to read but I can't see the Cerritos' Death Valley scanning through that area of the alphabet. I do note that Discovery is there in both original and -A format, which might be contentious since the ship is its own refit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (15 children) Shuttlecraft are Starfleet ships! I will die on this hill! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, many are warp capable, so that has to count for something, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Exactly! permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (9 children) They're vessels but I don't think they'd qualify as ships. If I ask you to name every ship in the Navy I do not want RHIBs, dinghys, tenders, lifeboats or rafts included, but if I ask for every vessel, then if the Navy owns a kayak I want it listed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) They have weapons, they can travel at warp. They're just smaller than the big ships. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no honour to die on that hill small pile of dirt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT KLINGON SHIPS! permalink fedilink source parent [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Ships launch other craft. Otherwise it's a boat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago The Discovery shouldn't be in Tendi's lost at all, considering its very existence was redacted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Remembered the Elmer Fudd, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eva_sieve@startrek.website 18 points 2 years ago* (17 children) Don't think they're including shuttlecraft. It's a bit hard to read but I can't see the Cerritos' Death Valley scanning through that area of the alphabet. I do note that Discovery is there in both original and -A format, which might be contentious since the ship is its own refit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (15 children) Shuttlecraft are Starfleet ships! I will die on this hill! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, many are warp capable, so that has to count for something, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Exactly! permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (9 children) They're vessels but I don't think they'd qualify as ships. If I ask you to name every ship in the Navy I do not want RHIBs, dinghys, tenders, lifeboats or rafts included, but if I ask for every vessel, then if the Navy owns a kayak I want it listed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) They have weapons, they can travel at warp. They're just smaller than the big ships. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no honour to die on that hill small pile of dirt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT KLINGON SHIPS! permalink fedilink source parent [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Ships launch other craft. Otherwise it's a boat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago The Discovery shouldn't be in Tendi's lost at all, considering its very existence was redacted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (15 children) Shuttlecraft are Starfleet ships! I will die on this hill! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, many are warp capable, so that has to count for something, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Exactly! permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (9 children) They're vessels but I don't think they'd qualify as ships. If I ask you to name every ship in the Navy I do not want RHIBs, dinghys, tenders, lifeboats or rafts included, but if I ask for every vessel, then if the Navy owns a kayak I want it listed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) They have weapons, they can travel at warp. They're just smaller than the big ships. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no honour to die on that hill small pile of dirt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT KLINGON SHIPS! permalink fedilink source parent [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Ships launch other craft. Otherwise it's a boat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, many are warp capable, so that has to count for something, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Exactly! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (9 children) They're vessels but I don't think they'd qualify as ships. If I ask you to name every ship in the Navy I do not want RHIBs, dinghys, tenders, lifeboats or rafts included, but if I ask for every vessel, then if the Navy owns a kayak I want it listed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) They have weapons, they can travel at warp. They're just smaller than the big ships. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) They have weapons, they can travel at warp. They're just smaller than the big ships. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) I can shoot a pistol from a jet-ski and go faster than an aircraft carrier. Is that a ship? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's a boat. A ship is capable of carrying a boat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago So a shuttlecraft is a boat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You aren't outrunning an aircraft carrier, those behemoths can outrun most of their escorts if they want permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Planing vs displacement. An aircraft carrier is limited by its hull speed to about 45 pretty much no matter how much power you give it. A slow jetski will do 65. I've heen on ones that would do that with the "slow" key where supposedly the fast key would let you do 85-90. I've also been on a tri-tune that did 75. An aircraft carrier is about the fastest displacement vessel but when you move into planing hulls its a different ball game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) They don't have sleeping quarters. Being able to house the crew is the bare minimum I expect from something canned a ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they don't have a place to sleep, multi-day trips they talk about using shuttlecraft for don't make sense. Clearly there's a fold-down bunk or something. I mean there doesn't look like there's any place for a toilet either, but there's no way they can be in a shuttlecraft for hours or days and not need one. They gave Scotty a shuttle and he went off to explore the universe. Does that make sense if there's nowhere to sleep? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/2/28/Goddard.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/720?cb=20180424133710&path-prefix=en Yeah, that couch can absolutely be a bed, and I bet the other side folds out into a toilet. Entire back area is probably a sonic shower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is no honour to die on that hill small pile of dirt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT KLINGON SHIPS! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT KLINGON SHIPS! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* Ships launch other craft. Otherwise it's a boat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago The Discovery shouldn't be in Tendi's lost at all, considering its very existence was redacted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Remembered the Elmer Fudd, though. permalink fedilink source parent