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The world's 280 million electric bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars (theconversation.com)
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[+] -12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yeah, right. And make 15 tonns of co2 extra, that would not have been needed when filling up the "Dino juice" car with "techno juice" that has 0% CO2.

But, we've lost the battle anyway already, so who cares.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Oh I see, you thinking alterative fuels to keep legacy car going. Problem is, those are biofuels and use a lot of land to grow and end up even more expensive than dino juice.

    EV running costs is way cheaper and their up front costs is coming down fast. They use slightly more CO2e to make, but way way less to run. Plus those of us lucky enough to have drives can just charge at home, which is great. There does need to better infrastructure for those without drives.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Bingo bongo. There are also tons of greenhouse gases + other pollution associated with cars that are not the gas they burn to drive. Road infrastructure is a big one.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Ties are a problem that we are just beginning to understand. But we can replace and keep the car.

    I mean don't get me wrong, I'd love good public transport instead. When it's good, people use it instead. When I go to a decent (European) city I want to ditch the car a.s.a.p as it's just a hamper.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I also think one aspect that keeps getting omitted from the conversation are exhaust fumes.

    We know that they are toxic and a common cause of any number of cardio-vascular and other diseases, including straight up turning you into a god damned moron. Yet it's perfectly accepted that we fill every cubic centimeter of our cities with them, and expect everyone to breathe in the noxious gasses every day of our lives.

    I don't want to inhale your exhaust fumes, I don't want to die faster and under greater pain just because you can't be arsed to bike instead of driving a car.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I don't think the toxic fumes are left out of the conversation. It's horrifying round schools at drop off or pick up. In decades to come we'll look back in amazement what was acceptable.

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