▲ 1265 ▼ The state of the discourse. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world 444 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) ok but if they're hiding in a hospital you dont need to bomb it? or do anything to it? hiding is not hurting anyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rchive@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) For conflicts like this leadership that is planning attacks or otherwise leading forces that are doing attacking, simply existing anywhere outside a prison cell is threatening. Hamas leadership knows that, they're the ones putting hostpitals at risk by being there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) right, but my point is, however inconvenient it is, we always have a choice not to bomb hospitals. People take human shields, you don't have to shoot through the human shields. Do I have all the answers? No, but people go to school for war. Surely this has come up before at some point in the last 20,000 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You certainly should do your best to not shoot through human shields, agreed. But can it still sometimes be better to shoot through human shields if that's what it takes to get very dangerous people vs letting them escape and threaten again later? I don't know, it's a hard question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) hiding is not hurting anyone. The assholes in the hospital are still shooting at the assholes outside the hospital. Though I still agree the assholes outside shouldn't be bombing it just to get at the assholes inside. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago we saw this in Bosnia and Rwanda, too. This is similar to Bosnia/Serbia/Yugoslavia in a lot of way (especially the siege of Saraievo). permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Depends. Are they artillery spotters. Are they leadership trying to claim to be in a safe you can't tag me zone. Did they just momentarily hide their guns too. Ya gotta secure that shit one way or another otherwise you'll get another massacre. There are no good answers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rchive@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) For conflicts like this leadership that is planning attacks or otherwise leading forces that are doing attacking, simply existing anywhere outside a prison cell is threatening. Hamas leadership knows that, they're the ones putting hostpitals at risk by being there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) right, but my point is, however inconvenient it is, we always have a choice not to bomb hospitals. People take human shields, you don't have to shoot through the human shields. Do I have all the answers? No, but people go to school for war. Surely this has come up before at some point in the last 20,000 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You certainly should do your best to not shoot through human shields, agreed. But can it still sometimes be better to shoot through human shields if that's what it takes to get very dangerous people vs letting them escape and threaten again later? I don't know, it's a hard question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) right, but my point is, however inconvenient it is, we always have a choice not to bomb hospitals. People take human shields, you don't have to shoot through the human shields. Do I have all the answers? No, but people go to school for war. Surely this has come up before at some point in the last 20,000 years? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You certainly should do your best to not shoot through human shields, agreed. But can it still sometimes be better to shoot through human shields if that's what it takes to get very dangerous people vs letting them escape and threaten again later? I don't know, it's a hard question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You certainly should do your best to not shoot through human shields, agreed. But can it still sometimes be better to shoot through human shields if that's what it takes to get very dangerous people vs letting them escape and threaten again later? I don't know, it's a hard question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) hiding is not hurting anyone. The assholes in the hospital are still shooting at the assholes outside the hospital. Though I still agree the assholes outside shouldn't be bombing it just to get at the assholes inside. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago we saw this in Bosnia and Rwanda, too. This is similar to Bosnia/Serbia/Yugoslavia in a lot of way (especially the siege of Saraievo). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago we saw this in Bosnia and Rwanda, too. This is similar to Bosnia/Serbia/Yugoslavia in a lot of way (especially the siege of Saraievo). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Depends. Are they artillery spotters. Are they leadership trying to claim to be in a safe you can't tag me zone. Did they just momentarily hide their guns too. Ya gotta secure that shit one way or another otherwise you'll get another massacre. There are no good answers permalink fedilink source parent