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Using the "frog in boiling water" technique (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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This is a $1 dollar increase from what I was paying. But soon subscribers will be $15/month, then $20/month. I wonder how much of deezer's income actually goes to the artists.

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[–] [S] 21 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I'm OK with the increase in price if I knew that extra money was actually going to the artists. But how do we know?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The extra money is probably going into server upkeep, software development, etc., not to artists.

    If you want to support artists, Spotify definitely is among the worst choices, while Deezer isn’t great but not horrible either. A little while ago I compiled the most official numbers I could find for any service that I could find. Now mind you, they are a little older (2-ish years) and I cannot remember the source, so take those numbers with a grain of salt but here they go:

    Per 1000 streams an Artist gets on average:

    • $4.02 on Amazon Music

    • $4.37 on Spotify

    • $6.76 on both Deezer and YouTube Music

    • $7.35 on Apple Music

    • $12.50 on Tidal

    • $19.00 on Napster

    • $38.16 on Quobuz

    As I said, the numbers are most likely not the most accurate anymore, the process for these services have changed a little since. However, they might still be interesting enough to know. Maybe someone is bored enough to search the web for more up to date data.

    For consumers it might also be interesting to add, that Spotify and YouTube Music, while costing the same as most of the other services (excluding Tidal HiFi Plus and Quobuz), offer a significantly worse audio quality than any other service (aka no lossless audio) and that Tidal‘s expensive HiRes audio tier uses a codec (MQA), that is proven to be terrible and mostly snake oil.

    In short: If you want to support artists, stay away from Spotify or amazon. If you want the best audio quality, stay away from Spotify, YouTube Music or Tidal and maybe Deezer (no support for HiRes lossless. Although to be fair, CD-Quality is enough for almost anyone). If you want both and don’t mind paying a little more: use Quobuz

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I wish there could be good, honest transparency on these figures. Figuring out which streaming service actually best funds musicians is almost like playing with a Ouija board.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Sadly. Although, admittedly, feature selection does rank higher than that for me, so most services are already out of the question for me, based on that, even if they‘d pay the artists better

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago

    I have never heard of quobuz before, that's awesome that they offer that much. The main reason I use deezer is because of my dj business. I can create the Playlist in deezer, then download the whole list at once with deemix for gigs. I'll have to see if quobuz has a download option.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's easy to know, actually. Spotify pays 70% of revenue to rights holders, and keeps 30%. Hence an increase of $1 will mean $0.30 for Spotify, and $0.70 to rights holders.

    https://labelgrid.com/blog/royalties/spotify-pay-per-stream/

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