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Show me art you like right now
Between this and your above post, I think you're getting far too hostile toward not only me but also people in this thread that subjectively don't appreciate (or even see) what you think is so important that you're apparently looking down on them for not "getting it."
There isn't much good that can come of this exchange at this point.
Post art that you like right now
I'm not interested in your gotcha game, be it "SEE? SEE? THIS IS A WARHOL INFLUENCE" or "HAH! LOOK AT HOW LOWBROW AND LOWLY YOUR TASTE IS."
If I wanted more of that I'd sign up for some postgrad humanities courses with the same professors that did that the first time around.
You're absolutely insufferable
You're so arrogant and hostile to the unwashed masses in this thread, myself included, that I'm truly getting vivid memories of some of those college courses again.
Yes, I liked poetry that rhymed. I even liked genre art, such as Stephen Gammel's charcoal pencil drawings of children's ghost stories. It's inferior to your superior (yet totally punk and subversive) sensibilities, probably.
Wash my masses
Oh, that takes me back. That rhyme-hating professor threw such a tantrum in his own class that he made one of the women in it cry because she liked Robert Frost and had the audacity to share one of his poems after being asked to do so because it did indeed speak to her.
That professor wanted to be punk and anti-establishment to the point of bullying people for not being sophisticated enough. His attitude changed over the weekend because I think the department head had a chat with him.
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You've already called people in this thread blue curtained ignorant consumers because they're not seeing the evergreenly profound (and subversive, and punk(tm)) importance and eminence you want them to see in Warhol's work.
I didn't do that here. At all. The thing with projection accusations is that they look false when the image being projected does not match yours whatsover.
What's your favorite show?
Can you find a new vector for your reactive rage?
I already mentioned Coleridge and Gammel in two very different sections of the humanities and you had nothing to say about them so far. What's the point of answering there too if you're just going to huff and puff at me anyway?
Naw, fuck a Warhol, I don't even care about that. This is personal. Right now I want you to name a film, a TV show, a piece of still art, a song and a fictional book you enjoy. Just for the record. Won't even reply. I just want to know that there are things in media that you are capable of finding any joy in beyond criticism.
No shit.
Your tantrum rings laughably hollow because I already did mention both a poet and a visual artist I liked very much and you didn't even acknowledge that while doubling down on your phantasmagoric illusory version of me to scream at.
I loved Dune, both the novel and the Lynch film, changes and weirdness and all. Hotel California is one of my problematic favorite songs. The Lady and the Unicorn series of tapestries has something new for me every time I look at them.
Is that enough for you to stop raging at me for not pledging due allegiance to the aging pretenses of punk and subversion started (and endlessly perpetuated by art snobs and rich assholes buying it) by a rich asshole fed asset?
Dawg, all of that was literally made by Andy Warhol.
You couldn't even resist your "not a fan" toxic fan bullshit for Andy Warhol so you immediately made yourself a liar.
You're claiming, apparently, that everything in the entire world is made by Andy Warhol after Andy Warhol blessed us with his presence. I was expecting that tiresome and trite Great Man Theory nonsense from you. It's laughably false, because even if he contributed and certainly made bank by his contributions, the belief that he singlehandedly created all art that followed by way of some Great Man theoretical determinism is pure liberal bullshit.
Even if it were true, and it's not, it's like expecting endless pledges of allegiance, awe, and praise (while not liking him as a person, right?) for William the Conqueror for establishing the roots of what we call modern English after 1066.
It's getting thin over here on the app LMAO
That's what happens when a "not a fan" of Andy Warhol goes all out in defense of Andy Warhol's godlike and unique contributions to the art world that no one else could have matched, surpassed, or replaced in his absence.
Emojis? Andy Warhol did it.
This site? Andy Warhol did it.
Your posts and mine? Andy Warhold did it.
We can only dream of aspiring to the awe-inspiring greatness and high level thinking of taking an undergrad art course
Performatively praising Great Men is a big part of the "in group" in humanities departments.
In the overlap between literature and performance arts, "bardology" is like a malignant tumor that chokes the resources out of anything not Shakespeare, for example. And God help you if you mention anything negative about Shakespeare (such as ) or his Tudor patrons (that were definitely pleased by the character assassination of Richard III) for any reason.
Funny how every creep eventually turns to “anti-intellectualism” as their weapon of defense. The French are experts at this today.
Was everyone who criticized “Cuties” anti-intellectual?
It doesn’t really speak to the strength of someone’s position when they have to just depart from the critiques themselves to brandish buzzwords. If your position is strong you should be able to defend it while sticking to the art in question.
If I criticize you it’s because I’m a shrewd critic. If you criticize me it’s because you’re anti-intellectual.
No, my pedophillic fantasy novel isn’t gross, and by criticizing it you’re being the same as literal Nazis (who doesn’t love a little Nazi trivialization?)
"You can't criticize or even dislike the rich connected fed-funded very smartists or their treats or else you are not very smartist."
“Yeah well conservatives also said rap was bad. Care to reconsider your ‘graphic sex scenes between a 12 year old and a 50 year old are bad’ position?”
"Also your criticism is itself a vindicating performance art piece! Dance, unwashed barbarian puppets! Dance for the glory of the abusive sex pest auteurs!"
The Lady and the Unicorn medieval tapestries were "literally made by Andy Warhol?"
Your not-a-fan toxic fandom for Andy Warhol may be making you see red right now, dawg.
PLEASE EXPLAIN
Summary, especially because "literally" a set of medieval tapestries were also credited to Andy Warhol:
I was hoping for some vague connection between Linda Ronstadt and Warhol to explain the Eagles thing
It's just Great Man Theory shit taken to its most extreme conclusions: you must directly credit the subversive genius of Andy Warhold for everything that came after him (and apparently, everything that came before him) or else you're an unwashed barbarian.
What the fuck are you talking about
Great Man Theory. Not even once.