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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) I miss Windows Vista. The arrow pointing downwards is about to be absolutely destroyed today. Edit: it turns out that it didn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I used to dual boot linux with windows Vista on an old laptop. I had only installed there the first assassin's creed and Rome total war. Nothing else, never really connected to internet. After 1 year of not using it a part than few total war sessions, vista was so slow that was unusable. It spontaneously became slow for no reason. I completely removed it, left only linux, and that laptop survived 7 years of intensive use, and was still working 10 years later (just too old). Vista was a scam permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good for you, I'm never gonna get convinced. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Vistas problem was that it was ahead of its time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I both agree and disagree with that statement. Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment. The actual technological advancement of Vista was userspace graphics drivers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, XP did that with most of the drivers other than graphics, which lead to a reduction in BSOD crashes (because if a user thread crashes, the OS just kills it and continues on, but an unhandled kernel error will crash the entire OS to a generic "turn the screen blue, report and error, and log it, if possible"). Vista further improved this by moving most of the graphics driver code out of kernel land. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Also correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vinniep@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I sort of agree with you, but not in the way I think you meant it. Vista's problem was that it's hardware requirements were too high for it's time. Operating systems have very long project development lifecycle and at a point early on they did a forward looking estimate of where the PC market would be by the time Vista released, and they overshot. When it was almost ready to release it to the world Microsoft put out the initial minimum and recommended specs and PC sellers (Dell, HP, Gateway) lobbied them to lower the numbers; the cost of a PC that met the recommended specs was just too high for the existing PC market and it would kill their sales numbers if they started selling PCs that met those figures. Microsoft complied and lowered the specs, but didn't actually change the operating system in any meaningful way - they just changed a few numbers on a piece of paper and added some configurations that let you disable some of the more hardware intensive bits. The result was that most Vista users were running it on hardware that wasn't actually able to run it properly, which lead to horrible user experiences. Anyone that bought a high end PC or built one themselves and ran Vista on that, however, seemed quite happy with the operating system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I had no problems with Vista. I also built a new PC for it though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Very similar story here: I bought a new computer that shipped with Vista. I got horrendously tired of that Pentium 4 thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Blasphemy! Windows XP is the only King! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don't really like XP's design anymore. I didn't like it back then either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I used to dual boot linux with windows Vista on an old laptop. I had only installed there the first assassin's creed and Rome total war. Nothing else, never really connected to internet. After 1 year of not using it a part than few total war sessions, vista was so slow that was unusable. It spontaneously became slow for no reason. I completely removed it, left only linux, and that laptop survived 7 years of intensive use, and was still working 10 years later (just too old). Vista was a scam permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good for you, I'm never gonna get convinced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Good for you, I'm never gonna get convinced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Vistas problem was that it was ahead of its time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I both agree and disagree with that statement. Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment. The actual technological advancement of Vista was userspace graphics drivers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, XP did that with most of the drivers other than graphics, which lead to a reduction in BSOD crashes (because if a user thread crashes, the OS just kills it and continues on, but an unhandled kernel error will crash the entire OS to a generic "turn the screen blue, report and error, and log it, if possible"). Vista further improved this by moving most of the graphics driver code out of kernel land. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Also correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vinniep@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I sort of agree with you, but not in the way I think you meant it. Vista's problem was that it's hardware requirements were too high for it's time. Operating systems have very long project development lifecycle and at a point early on they did a forward looking estimate of where the PC market would be by the time Vista released, and they overshot. When it was almost ready to release it to the world Microsoft put out the initial minimum and recommended specs and PC sellers (Dell, HP, Gateway) lobbied them to lower the numbers; the cost of a PC that met the recommended specs was just too high for the existing PC market and it would kill their sales numbers if they started selling PCs that met those figures. Microsoft complied and lowered the specs, but didn't actually change the operating system in any meaningful way - they just changed a few numbers on a piece of paper and added some configurations that let you disable some of the more hardware intensive bits. The result was that most Vista users were running it on hardware that wasn't actually able to run it properly, which lead to horrible user experiences. Anyone that bought a high end PC or built one themselves and ran Vista on that, however, seemed quite happy with the operating system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I both agree and disagree with that statement. Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment. The actual technological advancement of Vista was userspace graphics drivers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, XP did that with most of the drivers other than graphics, which lead to a reduction in BSOD crashes (because if a user thread crashes, the OS just kills it and continues on, but an unhandled kernel error will crash the entire OS to a generic "turn the screen blue, report and error, and log it, if possible"). Vista further improved this by moving most of the graphics driver code out of kernel land. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Also correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Windows finally got animations and transparency when Mac OS has beaten it by 6 years. Truly an oomph moment. The actual technological advancement of Vista was userspace graphics drivers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, XP did that with most of the drivers other than graphics, which lead to a reduction in BSOD crashes (because if a user thread crashes, the OS just kills it and continues on, but an unhandled kernel error will crash the entire OS to a generic "turn the screen blue, report and error, and log it, if possible"). Vista further improved this by moving most of the graphics driver code out of kernel land. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Also correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yeah, XP did that with most of the drivers other than graphics, which lead to a reduction in BSOD crashes (because if a user thread crashes, the OS just kills it and continues on, but an unhandled kernel error will crash the entire OS to a generic "turn the screen blue, report and error, and log it, if possible"). Vista further improved this by moving most of the graphics driver code out of kernel land. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vinniep@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I sort of agree with you, but not in the way I think you meant it. Vista's problem was that it's hardware requirements were too high for it's time. Operating systems have very long project development lifecycle and at a point early on they did a forward looking estimate of where the PC market would be by the time Vista released, and they overshot. When it was almost ready to release it to the world Microsoft put out the initial minimum and recommended specs and PC sellers (Dell, HP, Gateway) lobbied them to lower the numbers; the cost of a PC that met the recommended specs was just too high for the existing PC market and it would kill their sales numbers if they started selling PCs that met those figures. Microsoft complied and lowered the specs, but didn't actually change the operating system in any meaningful way - they just changed a few numbers on a piece of paper and added some configurations that let you disable some of the more hardware intensive bits. The result was that most Vista users were running it on hardware that wasn't actually able to run it properly, which lead to horrible user experiences. Anyone that bought a high end PC or built one themselves and ran Vista on that, however, seemed quite happy with the operating system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I had no problems with Vista. I also built a new PC for it though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Very similar story here: I bought a new computer that shipped with Vista. I got horrendously tired of that Pentium 4 thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Very similar story here: I bought a new computer that shipped with Vista. I got horrendously tired of that Pentium 4 thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Blasphemy! Windows XP is the only King! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don't really like XP's design anymore. I didn't like it back then either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I don't really like XP's design anymore. I didn't like it back then either. permalink fedilink source parent