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Communist Filth/Capitalist Filth (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 61 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What if, and hear me out on this one, the problem isn't which "-ism" is prevalent. The real problem is that ANY form of power or society needs checks and balances. If those are missing or not enforced, then everything goes to shit. It's a balancing act, not just a matter of black or white.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The whole point of Communism is to balance power away from the 1% and back to the masses. The fact that it is an "-ism" and has decades of propaganda demonozing it, doesnt make that any less true.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The whole point of Communism is to balance power away from the 1% and back to the masses

    But there needs to be some governing body that is responsible for determining how the power and wealth is distributed. Per the OP's point: if the proper guardrails are not in place, control of that governing body will eventually shift towards a person or party who corrupts it for their own purposes. It doesn't matter what the "point" of a system is, corrupt people will always attempt to take the wheel.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    This was legitimately a problem after ww2 where the politically active communists were more heavily involved in the war and a bunch of the human infrastructure of (especially local)democracy got killed by nazis

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    balance power away from the 1% and back to the masses

    By installing a dictator...every time it's attempted...

    Maybe not do that next time and try doing it from the bottom up instead of top-down🏴. It's much more work to convince people that this is a solution and have them help willingly instead of forcing them to go along with it. We tried the Marxist-Leninist way dozens of times, let's try the anarchist way. A capitalist boot or a communist boot on my neck makes no difference to me, it's still a boot on my neck.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why did Napoleon take power after the French Revolution if Capitalism doesn't have dictators every time a revolution occurs?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Maybe not do that next time and try doing it from the bottom up instead of top-down🏴.

    Those have been tried, but they often tend to get liberated by the CIA. Or in some cases, the KGB / Red Army.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm certainly not advocating for toppling other countries' governments, but honestly the fact that so many countries end up not being able to withstand the attacks from outside is kind of a mark against them.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Well, that's the problem with bottom-up government, isn't it? It is better in most ways, but the local empire will invade you at the first chance they get.

    If I remember correctly, the fall of the Paris commune to a Franco-German alliance was what led the early Marxists to embrace a centralised system. Of course, that brings its own problems, as power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You should read capital volume one, it will explain how the problem actually is capitalism

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago

    Actually, the problem is homelessness.

    The solution is either housing (ethical) or genocide (unethical).

    Provision of housing for the poor can be achieved by means of social housing programs. These can exist in both communist and capitalist societies. E.g. the Netherlands is capitalist, but there is almost no homelessness thanks to its social housing program. The few homeless that are present are choosing this way of life and are therefore not part of problem.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why is there so much communist propaganda on Lemmy? Could it be that reddit is actually good at filtering out state-sponsored content farms?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Decentralization appeals to leftists, as that's the principle of the ideology, away from bourgeois interests.

    I haven't seen evidence of state-sponsored propaganda, though there are people that simp far too hard for China and the CPC on Lemmy though.

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