▲ 12 ▼ Zelensky refuses to hold elections in wartime Ukraine (www.newsweek.com) submitted 3 years ago by NightOwl@lemm.ee to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 145 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (3 children) https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/24/ukraine-unguided-rockets-killing-civilians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) OK, that's horrible. But yeah, Russia isn't looking for peace if it doesn't involve taking control over a large area of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Borders are constructs and as history shows they change whether its justifiable or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago* Yes, and that's not in the best interest of Ukraine. So Ukraine doesn't want to lose all of that territory, but Russia wants to gain it, and Ukraine thinks it is capable of defending it's territory, while Russia thinks that it's capable of defeating them. That's how you get a war. To get peace negotiations you need one of, or both of the nations to decide that they've had enough casualties or other loses, and that they're ready to settle down for less. Neither of them have decided that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) OK, that's horrible. But yeah, Russia isn't looking for peace if it doesn't involve taking control over a large area of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Borders are constructs and as history shows they change whether its justifiable or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago* Yes, and that's not in the best interest of Ukraine. So Ukraine doesn't want to lose all of that territory, but Russia wants to gain it, and Ukraine thinks it is capable of defending it's territory, while Russia thinks that it's capable of defeating them. That's how you get a war. To get peace negotiations you need one of, or both of the nations to decide that they've had enough casualties or other loses, and that they're ready to settle down for less. Neither of them have decided that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Borders are constructs and as history shows they change whether its justifiable or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago* Yes, and that's not in the best interest of Ukraine. So Ukraine doesn't want to lose all of that territory, but Russia wants to gain it, and Ukraine thinks it is capable of defending it's territory, while Russia thinks that it's capable of defeating them. That's how you get a war. To get peace negotiations you need one of, or both of the nations to decide that they've had enough casualties or other loses, and that they're ready to settle down for less. Neither of them have decided that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 0 points 3 years ago* Yes, and that's not in the best interest of Ukraine. So Ukraine doesn't want to lose all of that territory, but Russia wants to gain it, and Ukraine thinks it is capable of defending it's territory, while Russia thinks that it's capable of defeating them. That's how you get a war. To get peace negotiations you need one of, or both of the nations to decide that they've had enough casualties or other loses, and that they're ready to settle down for less. Neither of them have decided that. permalink fedilink source parent