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[–] 166 points 2 years ago (14 children)

If you're wondering how fun this could get, here's an article from the National Post arguing that poverty should be a qualifier for assisted suicide

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-medical-aid-in-dying

Here's another where a woman with sensitivities to various chemical smells chose to die because she couldn't find an apartment that was affordable and didn't reek of noxious chemicals

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/woman-with-chemical-sensitivities-chose-medically-assisted-death-after-failed-bid-to-get-better-housing-1.5860579

The people who are worried about this aren't worried about people who genuinely want to die committing suicide. It was always nearly impossible to stop them anyway, and there's no way to change that. What we're worried about is people being pushed toward MAID because they've been systemically denied things they need to live that are absolutely available. We're worried about mentally ill people being told "do the right thing, don't be a burden" when they want to live. We're worried about suicide becoming the answer to problems that are caused by social and legislative conditions. We're worried about becoming the kind of society where, rather than help one another, it's expected that anyone who needs help just off themselves.

This is all coming from someone who tried twice and will be eternally grateful that I managed to fuck it up both times.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago

    Your comment brings up the most relevant point against MAID and it's clear we can be a better society than one which pushes people over the edge, or let's them fall despite their pleas.

    I too am glad that you managed to fuck it up and that you're here with us.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I think everybody deserves the right to end their life in a humane way.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I got close to trying several times. I suffer from anxiety and depression, I'm obsessive but I love life. I just wish I could solve my mental issues. Offing yourself is not a solution. It's like I have a math question in front of me and I rip up the paper and toss it in a can.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This is what the anti-suicide crowd fucking told you would happen if you legitimized or legalized suicide, and now that it's happening, you're once again refusing to connect it with supporting bad policies with no thought or consideration for the consequences.

    But you're not the one who's gonna suffer so why should you give a shit, amirite? 🤷

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I love it when people are so fired up that they yell at me for agreeing with them

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    I love it when you are so hopped up on the smell of your own shit that you give away you're just being a skeevy fuck by trying to make the discussion all about your opponent's emotions and not about the topic at hand.

    You didn't consider at all what I said isn't only directed at you, but who cares as long as you get to win something?

    What we’re worried about is people being pushed toward MAID because they’ve been systemically denied things they need to live that are absolutely available.

    Like here, where you are steadfastly defending assisted suicide and not acknowledging anywhere this is what opponents told you would happen. And you argue you want it both ways afterward and you don't get that you can't have it both ways; humanity is too immature and tyrannical for that, so if you want to save the impoverished people being targeted for suicide, you have to ban ALL legally assisted suicide outright. There is no middle ground with depraved fucks in western governments.

    But you don't care about the topic, you just want to win an argument on the internet. Well, here's your trophy 🏆 But the policy is still bad and you're still wrong for defending it.

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