this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2023
269 points (100.0% liked)
chapotraphouse
13448 readers
682 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
You're just fucking over people who work for hourly wages and/or have childcare issues. People who otherwise might be sympathetic to your cause.
It's the stupidest form of protest there is. Maybe it would be fine in a country with a better social safety net, but in the US it impacts poor working people the most, while wealthier people can just work remotely or stay home and still earn their salary.
Meanwhile some single mom is being blocked from picking her kid up from school.
What kinds of protest action would be most effective, in your view? The point is to be disruptive so that people get pissed off at government and demand change.
I'll be honest; I don't have a great answer. I just know for a fact that blocking traffic hurts the working poor far more than it does the elite who are ostensibly the people being targeted by such protests.
As a union member and union activist, my ultimate answer is always going to be more union organizing and more union actions.
I am all in on Local 10 till I die!
Fair enough. The main issue with union organizing imo is that they're busy with organizing for their worker's rights (which is good!), which means they're not going to lead the charge on eg environmental issues. FWIW I think the reason the forms of protest listed on the survey are allowed is largely because they're ineffective and don't convenience those in power. Obviously I'd prefer if people went and eg camped out on the lawns of the white house, or outside supreme court justice's homes, but when that happens they get called terrorists.
I think we're largely in complete agreement and as such I say let us not allow our small disagreements to sidetrack us from the larger vision that I think we both share.