▲ 260 ▼ Civilian deaths are indefensible, whether done by Hamas or Israel | Rajan Menon (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/news@beehaw.org 56 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Khalic@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So because the situation is too risky, better hide behind your people? Of course not! Human shields are never acceptable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm saying that any military strategy has to operate around it's own operational and environmental constraints, and the capabilities and obstacles of the opposing force. Whatever you're opinions are on any conflict, you should still understand that rational actors will respond accordingly to their constraints. Rational doesn't mean moral, it means they have a clear mission and objective, and a plan to achieve it. You're suggesting that instead of being combat effective, they should instead suicide themselves by operating in an open field in close proximity, and with no cover, to a vastly superior force. That would be irrational. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Khalic@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who gives a fuck if it’s combat effective when it kills your people? If you’re not fighting for the lives of your people? What are you fighting for? In the case of Hamas, the answer is in their charter: kill all jews. They admit it themselves ffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm providing an extremely high level and simplified outline of the operational and strategic constraints for militants operating within Gaza, not moral commentary on it. If you want my opinions, or moral judgments, feel free to browse my comment history. Jump into any of those conversations if you disagree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Khalic@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago Sorry, I get your point. It’s getting late here, I got carried away. You are right, it’s a tactically valid choice, but I really hope I’d kill myself before I do something like that, but life can fuck you up real bad so who knows… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm saying that any military strategy has to operate around it's own operational and environmental constraints, and the capabilities and obstacles of the opposing force. Whatever you're opinions are on any conflict, you should still understand that rational actors will respond accordingly to their constraints. Rational doesn't mean moral, it means they have a clear mission and objective, and a plan to achieve it. You're suggesting that instead of being combat effective, they should instead suicide themselves by operating in an open field in close proximity, and with no cover, to a vastly superior force. That would be irrational. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Khalic@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who gives a fuck if it’s combat effective when it kills your people? If you’re not fighting for the lives of your people? What are you fighting for? In the case of Hamas, the answer is in their charter: kill all jews. They admit it themselves ffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm providing an extremely high level and simplified outline of the operational and strategic constraints for militants operating within Gaza, not moral commentary on it. If you want my opinions, or moral judgments, feel free to browse my comment history. Jump into any of those conversations if you disagree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Khalic@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago Sorry, I get your point. It’s getting late here, I got carried away. You are right, it’s a tactically valid choice, but I really hope I’d kill myself before I do something like that, but life can fuck you up real bad so who knows… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Khalic@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who gives a fuck if it’s combat effective when it kills your people? If you’re not fighting for the lives of your people? What are you fighting for? In the case of Hamas, the answer is in their charter: kill all jews. They admit it themselves ffs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm providing an extremely high level and simplified outline of the operational and strategic constraints for militants operating within Gaza, not moral commentary on it. If you want my opinions, or moral judgments, feel free to browse my comment history. Jump into any of those conversations if you disagree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Khalic@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago Sorry, I get your point. It’s getting late here, I got carried away. You are right, it’s a tactically valid choice, but I really hope I’d kill myself before I do something like that, but life can fuck you up real bad so who knows… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm providing an extremely high level and simplified outline of the operational and strategic constraints for militants operating within Gaza, not moral commentary on it. If you want my opinions, or moral judgments, feel free to browse my comment history. Jump into any of those conversations if you disagree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Khalic@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago Sorry, I get your point. It’s getting late here, I got carried away. You are right, it’s a tactically valid choice, but I really hope I’d kill myself before I do something like that, but life can fuck you up real bad so who knows… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Khalic@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago Sorry, I get your point. It’s getting late here, I got carried away. You are right, it’s a tactically valid choice, but I really hope I’d kill myself before I do something like that, but life can fuck you up real bad so who knows… permalink fedilink source parent