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By occupying or operating a Nissan vehicle you automatically agree to their dogshit ToS and privacy policy. You give Nissan the right to collect and sell the following data:

"Name, email address, phone number, mailing address, geolocation, zip code, age, date of birth, driver’s license number, national or state identification number, citizenship status, immigration status, race, national origin, religious or philosophical beliefs, sexual orientation, sexual activity, precise geolocation, health diagnosis data, and genetic information, social security number as an employee, service or warranty information regarding vehicles, employment and related information, such as employee identification number National or State Identification Numbers, and dependent information for the administration of certain employee benefits or programs.. Also: Inferences drawn from any Personal Data collected to create a profile about a consumer reflecting the consumer’s preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, and aptitudes Vehicle- and driving-related information: the vehicle’s operation including, without limitation, Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), geolocation and navigation information, speed and distance information, driving habit and style, battery use management information (for electric vehicles), battery charging history (for electric vehicles), battery deterioration information (for electric vehicles), electrical system functions, diagnostic trouble codes, maintenance conditions, software version information, and other data, your use of the vehicle and any corresponding services, websites and smartphone applications, vehicle status information (e.g., information about door locks, open doors, engine status, etc.), data about accidents involving the vehicle (e.g., the direction from which the vehicle was hit, and which air bags have deployed)."

And that's just Nissan. Privacy Not Included* reviewed many other car brands in their report

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would love to buy a dumb EV - you know, a car with an electric drivetrain and everything manual in it. No smarts, no firmware update, no digital display, no entertainment, no nothing. Just a car. Even manual crank windows are okay for me. What isn't okay is any sort of internet connection.

Sadly, that's not a thing. I don't even think you can buy any new car these days - EV or gasoline - that doesn't have some kind of data link to the manufacturer, and I'm pretty it's been like that for many years. I wouldn't know, my car is 25 years old and I usually ride the bus anyway. But that is my understanding.

If someone can point me to a nice, recent, lightweight, aerodynamic and totally manual electric car, I'd be eternally grateful.