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[–] 12 points 1 day ago* (7 children)

It's the unnecessary reliance on apps devices that I'm worried about.

My old robot vac was relatively dumb. It had an app, and you could control it by that, get some stats and other handy stuff. But you could put it anywhere, press the start button, and off it would go and successfully clean the area. The app wasn't really required.

My new robot vac has heaps of extra features. But to run at all, it requires the app. So, if the app stops getting updated, or stops working, or is incompatible with an android update (for me), then it's trash.

Reliance on apps is becoming the norm.

I'm really concerned about new cars. Many seem to rely heavily on OTA for servicing, diagnosis, updates and functionality. With the shakeup in the car industry, how will things go when the brand disappears? And it seems like a lot of them will, including a plethora of the newer Chinese brands...

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Yes. I share these concerns. Its the key reason I haven't gone out and got a robo-vac for my house, and why I'm finding it really hard to like any new cars on the market. They're all enviro-killer 'trucks', or gizmo's on wheels.

    Who the fuck makes normal cars with the new power train (EV)? It seems non-existent.

    Buttons, and electric windows that work would be nice to.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    see if you can get your hands on an 880 Roomba. They are godlike machines. And zero internet.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    yup. And then you end up with situations like Logitech or Fetch where since they control the access entirely, they can fuck a product that you legally own at a whim for their own profit.

    Still got that old vac? Our Roomba is coming up in age, but we keep ship of theseus'ing that thing and it will outlast the heatdeath of the universe. Fuck apps.

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