Voters in Montana on Tuesday delivered a major blow to big moneyed interests by overwhelmingly passing a ballot initiative barring corporate cash from political campaigns in the state.

With 87% of votes counted as of Wednesday morning, Montana Constitutional Initiative 194 has ++received++ support from more than 65% of voters, with just 35% registering opposition.

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[–] 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah I respect the ethos in a lot of ways. Their philosophy only really fails when like... They disagree on stuff.

"I don't give a fuck where your kids get educated. Just don't tell me where to educate mine." Is fine until "well they need to be being taught 'x y and z.'" And you're met with "LIKE HELL THEY DO, ASSHOLE, GET OFF MY LAWN." because they can't agree on x y and z.

Or

"We don't do drugs in this house. And if my kids touch the stuff, they're out on their own. But, why should johnny law have a say what's in my greenhouse?"

Or

"I am fiercly pro life. But, I don't think anyone outside this house should be telling my daughter whether or not she has access to an abortion. She's just disowned if she ever chooses to access one."

Where like, their rugged individualism is so fierce they'll happily hurt people close to them to maintain their version of what's right. Tough to respect that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    I just think these folk will be subject to their own Family Modernization at which point theyll kinda have to make te right choice and drop all the bullshit.

    You'd be amazed how important it is to people to have complete family photos and the social consequencesto those who have to 'splain to their friends/network why their child isnt in any of their current family photos and never will be in the future.

    Those are the real losers. Zero sympathy or empathy, they could fiz shit but they cant get over themselves

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    No that's what I am saying. Montanians are more likely to choose their individualism over the complete family photo. That's where their philosophy falls apart.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    You really think so? Like they're able to uphold that rugged individualism even when their house is empty on Christmas and they have zero evidence of a loving, intact family?

    Im sad for them but not in any way that would compel any sympathy. Theres such a dark side to being an American

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago*

    Yeah. They're the red side of the coin to Maine. Same attitude but Maine wants their family. They would cede to keep the family stable.

    Like if I am being ignorant and going off stereotypes: I'd bet money that there is a higher rate of alcoholism among married/divorced men in Montana than in Maine. The Montana man would keep drinking because he'd refuse to see himself as the problem. Maine man would swallow the ego if it meant saving the family. On average.

    I say Maine but really, think all of New England except big cities where it's quite a bit more liberal overall. Northern New England especially though.

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