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Manifestos, Fear, and ‘Loser Thinking’: Inside Proton’s AI Reckoning (www.404media.co)
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[–] 10 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Proton products have been great for me, I use them all every day. Not renewing when my sub is up and I'll quote Andy Yen as why.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 days ago (12 children)

    So what are the alternatives?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago (11 children)

    Haven't done enough research to say yet. Others have been suggesting in the thread. Might self host my passwords. Email seems the easiest switch with the most options. Cloud storage, not sure yet; I need a decent amount of it for crucial backups.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 days ago (10 children)

    Well, that's the problem IMO, there isn't really a perfect alternative.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (9 children)

    I never claimed that there was.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    I didn't say you were 🤷🏼‍♀️

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (7 children)

    I suppose I'm just confused at the purpose of the sentiment, then. Not having a perfect alternative is not a good excuse to continue supporting Proton with its current leadership and direction.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    It's the best I know about.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (5 children)

    If you don't take issue with the things raised in the article, then you do you. For me, they are enough for me to leave Proton. You came into this conversation asking me what alternatives I was interested in.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (4 children)

    Well to where then? This sounds more like a proton bash than something helpful.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (3 children)

    ??? I already answered that 7 comments ago. You asked me for my opinions and I gave them, I'm so confused.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (2 children)

    You answered that you didn't know of a better alternative, but you also think people should move, which doesn't make sense.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 days ago* (1 child)

    For the record, nowhere in this conversation did I say that I think people should move. You're putting words in my mouth. I've only ever spoken about myself and my own plans.

    That clarified, I do think people should not support a company with leadership like Proton's.

    You do not need a perfect or "better" (subjective) alternative to leave Proton. If you are not willing to accept an inconvenience for a moral stance, then it is no moral stance at all.

    Just because I do not personally yet know what I will be switching to does not at all undermine my position. I do not think you are carrying on this conversation in good faith, so I'm going to end it here.

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