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Do you think homeless people are responsible for the situation they are in? (thelemmy.club)

submitted 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) by qvi8dhqln@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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In your humble opinion, are the majority of the homeless people responsible for the situation they are in? IOW: do they deserve to be homeless, because it is their personal failure or do they not, because they are a victim of the circumstances (the reasons they are where they are are largely out of their control)? Have you ever talked to homeless people? Are they really just "bad people" and "will never change" or are they hardworking individuals who've just had a punch by life that they were unable to stand after?

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 14 points 17 hours ago (15 children)

You should lurk more before posting "homeless people deserve to die."

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[+] qvi8dhqln@lemmy.world [S] -19 points 17 hours ago (14 children)

Did I say that? Are you mentally challenged?

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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Of these 2 questions, your first was valid.

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 7 points 17 hours ago (12 children)

Implied and reported. We don't need redditors here.

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[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

What's with the hostility against redditors? A large number of us came here from reddit during the API apocalypse. We should be welcoming additional redditors. Not shunning them.

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[–] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com 1 point 48 minutes ago

Wouldn't willfully leaving thus mean you aren't a redditor? You actively choose to not engage with the community, the site or it's politics.

Thus you aren't a redditor.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Why? So this can become the cesspool that Reddit became? I'm totally fine with judging each user by their actions and kicking them to the curb if they wander in and shit in our house.

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[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Because discriminating against a group of people based only on one factor is a terrible idea.

Let's stick to judging users individually based on their actions rather than lumping everyone who came from reddit into the same category.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago (1 child)

It feels like you're arguing with me, but then you pretty much said exactly what I said, so I guess we agree?

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[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Yes. I think we were talking around each other a bit. I was interested in attacking the statement, "We don't need redditors here." It sounded like you were defending that statement with your "Why?" question. The second half of your statement was definitely in line with the main point I'm trying to get across.

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[+] qvi8dhqln@lemmy.world [S] -11 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Maybe if you werent such an accusatory asshat, I would feel the need to call you that

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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Hey: be nice.

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[–] qvi8dhqln@lemmy.world [S] -3 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Bro, how if they are not being nice to me first?

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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

These might help:

wp:Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks

wp:Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot

wp:Wikipedia:No angry mastodons

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[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

All good links, thanks for sharing!

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[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

It's not an easy thing to learn how to deal with, but it's always good to try to deescalate situations when possible.

There are different ways to handle it, humor is one method. So, if someone accuses you of being a bot, you can reply with something like, "Hello, fellow human, I am most certainly a human replying in the most humane way possible".

Additionally, attack the argument, not the person. If someone claims something that you didn't say, focus on that. Try to leave out any insults since that will just escelate the situation.

If all else fails, just block and report. Some instances here are known for dogpiling when someone's opinions are seen as a threat to their own beliefs.

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