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What's your favorite example of a non-nazi dog whistle? (lemmy.zip)
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Basically just something people say that indicates a position indirectly, like how seperatists from a given region might always say they're from [region] and not [country] or how trump supporters call AI "SI" now.

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[–] 41 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Are those dog whistles? I think of dog whistles as conveying a specific message to those in the know.

The examples you gave seem more like shibboleths - something that can be used to identify or rule out being part of an identity group.

Calling taiwan "taiwan" instead of china marks the speaker as not from the PRC, but it doesn't send a specific message the way that republicans would say "welfare cheats" when they meant "black people", trusting their base understands.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Wouldn't a dog whistle be a type of shibboleth?

    Dog whistles convey a message to those in the know, but without outsiders being able to hear it. (Like how a dog can hear a dog whistle but humans can't.) A shibboleth would convey that you're a part of an identity group without outsiders being able yo tell the difference.

    Though I suppose dog whistles could also be phrases instead of words. Idk, there's at least some overlap.

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Yeah you're right I did mean shibboleths, just didn't know the term, sorry, should I edit the post?

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  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Yeah, as @Tikiporch@lemmy.world said, the meaning is clear.

    It's such a fun word and i think it's such a neat concept, but it's annoying to use in a title cause it's quite a rare word. But i find that once there's a name for it, it's way easier to notice it, so i like to mention it.

    Where i live we pronounce couch st and schuyler st as cooch and skyler, and the police dept is the police bureau. Not knowing these things is used as a shibboleth that marks visiters.

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