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Proton hosts map of 300,000 Flock devices amid legal threats (cyberinsider.com)
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Proton is hosting a public map showing more than 300,000 Flock surveillance devices across the United States, preserving access to a research project whose creator faces legal threats and intimidation. The map draws on an inventory obtained by cybersecurity researcher Joshua Michael from Flock’s own systems. According to Proton, it includes more than 170,000 cameras …

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[–] 15 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

How about a privacy company promoting privacy? Whether or not it's "political" depends entirely on whether or not you choose to apply that perspective. They're doing the same thing they've always done, and I'm pretty sure the motivation is to maintain their rep/get paid rather than exert influence somehow

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  • [+] -12 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

    Well then fight the core issue: the legislation which allows such cameras. It is okay to fight for privacy so that my service can continue. I am not okay to use my funds to create maps that literally have nothing to do with what proton provides. Fuck that.

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  • [–] 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    I mean.. It's not "your" money, they didn't create the map, and it seems pretty relevant to the rest of their services to me. Would be lit if they put out a privacy respecting navigation app with avoiding em as a feature, I'm about it. Kinda hard to see your take here as genuine, not sure what motivates it

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  • [+] -7 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

    I just want to have a working e-mail service. As soon as a provider gets political, the big trouble including lawsuits start, risking getting bankrupt, making me pay for all of that, with the potential of having no value at the end, as the service has to shut down.

    I absolutely see the need to provide information about the flock cameras. I don’t see the need for Proton to do that.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 hours ago*

    Gotcha. I first heard about them through their VPN service, see privacy itself as their core product, and email/storage/calendar etc as very logical ways of delivering that same product that navigation or map data in general would be a great addition to. Being a privacy provider in a system so focused on surveillance and manipulation seems pretty "political" in the way you're using the term no matter what. A proton abstaining from politics in that sense would just be google. Your definition of political seems to be related to how much friction is generated with the establishment, and imo their willingness to provide that friction is exactly what people are paying them for. If all you care about is a working email service, gmail is great. Better even, not to mention free.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago

    Legislation is not only a legal process. There’s public awareness, democratic mandate. Laws don’t become laws when nobody is interested. Sometimes the people pushing for it are weathly elite, sometimes it’s the little guy.

    Engaging with public initiatives and such, even if it’s slightly performative, to send a message is fighting for the cause.

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