Proton is hosting a public map showing more than 300,000 Flock surveillance devices across the United States, preserving access to a research project whose creator faces legal threats and intimidation. The map draws on an inventory obtained by cybersecurity researcher Joshua Michael from Flock’s own systems. According to Proton, it includes more than 170,000 cameras …

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[+] -7 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

I just want to have a working e-mail service. As soon as a provider gets political, the big trouble including lawsuits start, risking getting bankrupt, making me pay for all of that, with the potential of having no value at the end, as the service has to shut down.

I absolutely see the need to provide information about the flock cameras. I don’t see the need for Proton to do that.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago*

    Gotcha. I first heard about them through their VPN service, see privacy itself as their core product, and email/storage/calendar etc as very logical ways of delivering that same product that navigation or map data in general would be a great addition to. Being a privacy provider in a system so focused on surveillance and manipulation seems pretty "political" in the way you're using the term no matter what. A proton abstaining from politics in that sense would just be google. Your definition of political seems to be related to how much friction is generated with the establishment, and imo their willingness to provide that friction is exactly what people are paying them for. If all you care about is a working email service, gmail is great. Better even, not to mention free.

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