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[–] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I used to be friends with a liberal, but he became a Marxist. Still close friends and reading Marxist texts together in a book club. I know it's very rare, but it can happen. I had plenty less good experiences too. Another friend that I had a huge argument over Palestine with over a year ago became at least way more left and they recently apologized to me telling me I was right from the start.

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  • [–] 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    I don't think it's even that rare, it's just that it's a process for most people, not something that happens overnight. Which includes people who consider themselves marxist, communist, etc.; declaring yourself to be one doesn't immediately get rid of all pre-existing bougie schools of thought from your mind. I always think of Stalin talking about the USSR having self-crit. Or Mao's stuff like Oppose Book Worship.

    If we understand ourselves as existing in many possible stages, with a process to transition from one to another, I think it's easier to see why it's both feasible to educate someone away from liberalism to communism and is also likely going to take time to get there.

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