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[–] 6 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Python environment/packaging sucks, but at least the language itself doesn't.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 hours ago

    I learned basic programming in BASIC in the 80s. Back then when you needed more speed, you grafted in assembly calls, and the speed difference was dramatic.

    Straight Python feels as slow as BASIC - it's got nifty speedy library calls to stuff written in other languages, but if you need something that's not available in a library, now you're writing a library function for Python, in another language, and why not just write the whole thing in that other language and ditch the heavy toolchain?

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  • [–] 5 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

    It's fine actually, all of the problemswith python packaging and env are overblown to insane degree.

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  • [–] 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    yeah everyone elses experience is invalid.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago*

    Yep, they are.

    Just recently there was an article here, where a person claimed that recommended python tooling is inadequate because they needes to read two paragraphs of documentation. Endemic problem really.

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  • [–] 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

    I used to work at a place that used Jython (which never got updated to Python 3, BTW) and was responsible for trying to keep that shit working even as various libraries started dropping Python 2 support.

    I still get a thousand-yard stare when I think about it.

    (Still worth it vs. writing actual Java code, though.)

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