This is gonna piss some people (men) off, I can already tell...

This is an excellent point and I think it demonstrates really well what people mean by "all men"

Even tho I love men as much as the next straight girl...bear for me, please

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[–] 3 points 1 hour ago (6 children)

That's fair. I still don't see how "all men" rhetoric is a better way to raise awareness than, say, just using the statistics themselves. There's plenty of campaigns that use just numbers. You circumvent the issue of alienating potential allies while grounding your statements in reality instead of putting more flame on the fire for a discussion where everyone wants to be right without actual involvement in the real world.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (5 children)

    The meme is explaining why the phrase "all men" is sometimes used and the deeper meaning behind it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (4 children)

    I'm more so talking about the rhetoric in general rather than this specific post. Rhetoric that needs an explanation off the bat really isn't good at getting its point across.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

    Almost all shorthand rhetoric needs an explanation - see "Defund Police" as an example.

    You don't need to be offended on behalf of the men that don't do the work to dismantle our rape culture.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    That's literally a perfect demonstration of my point😂. It's not "No Police" it's "Defund Police" which carries the meaning of less funding but not abolishing funding. There's probably a better absolute slogan you could use to demonstrate your point, though!

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