▲ 242 ▼ 'If you can’t show your game to the world without fearing it’ll be cloned, something’s broken' says Moonlighter studio on its canceled demo (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 1 day ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago (12 children) I don't think that was a decision by their investors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (11 children) What gives you that impression? What I see is that demos help games succeed, ergo investors're happy. You're suggesting that he was so resolute in his stance that he pitched it to them, knowing that he was trying to sell them on a high risk play to what, send a message? 🤓 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago* (10 children) The question is, what gives you the impression that investors control the project? Unless proven, I don't think your previous claim is true. I'm not in the position to provide evidence for not doing something, its the other way round. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 18 hours ago* (9 children) I'm questioning your logic, not your sources. Thanks, though. Nice dodge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 18 hours ago (8 children) You made the claim. And I don't believe you are right, unless you can prove it. I'm not the making the claim that investors control the demo to be cancelled. Do you have any prove for your claim? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago (5 children) I made the claim that your hypothesis is irrational and lacking support, and followed up with why. Double down all you like. 🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children) You made the claim that their investors made the choice to take the demo away. I asked for evidence, which you still lack and talk like fluff only. I don't believe your claim until you prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 point 16 hours ago (1 child) You're the one making the claim the investors didn't have a play in this. Shouldn't the most obvious/common case be what we default to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* No no, you stated the investors made the decision. I say, I don't believe it without evidence. Until then it didn't happen. Also BTW, isn't this an indie company without investors at all? So I don't know what you talking about. I do not believe investors cancelled the demo of the game. If you cannot prove it, then I don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (11 children) What gives you that impression? What I see is that demos help games succeed, ergo investors're happy. You're suggesting that he was so resolute in his stance that he pitched it to them, knowing that he was trying to sell them on a high risk play to what, send a message? 🤓 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago* (10 children) The question is, what gives you the impression that investors control the project? Unless proven, I don't think your previous claim is true. I'm not in the position to provide evidence for not doing something, its the other way round. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 18 hours ago* (9 children) I'm questioning your logic, not your sources. Thanks, though. Nice dodge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 18 hours ago (8 children) You made the claim. And I don't believe you are right, unless you can prove it. I'm not the making the claim that investors control the demo to be cancelled. Do you have any prove for your claim? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago (5 children) I made the claim that your hypothesis is irrational and lacking support, and followed up with why. Double down all you like. 🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children) You made the claim that their investors made the choice to take the demo away. I asked for evidence, which you still lack and talk like fluff only. I don't believe your claim until you prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 point 16 hours ago (1 child) You're the one making the claim the investors didn't have a play in this. Shouldn't the most obvious/common case be what we default to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* No no, you stated the investors made the decision. I say, I don't believe it without evidence. Until then it didn't happen. Also BTW, isn't this an indie company without investors at all? So I don't know what you talking about. I do not believe investors cancelled the demo of the game. If you cannot prove it, then I don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago* (10 children) The question is, what gives you the impression that investors control the project? Unless proven, I don't think your previous claim is true. I'm not in the position to provide evidence for not doing something, its the other way round. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 18 hours ago* (9 children) I'm questioning your logic, not your sources. Thanks, though. Nice dodge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 18 hours ago (8 children) You made the claim. And I don't believe you are right, unless you can prove it. I'm not the making the claim that investors control the demo to be cancelled. Do you have any prove for your claim? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago (5 children) I made the claim that your hypothesis is irrational and lacking support, and followed up with why. Double down all you like. 🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children) You made the claim that their investors made the choice to take the demo away. I asked for evidence, which you still lack and talk like fluff only. I don't believe your claim until you prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 point 16 hours ago (1 child) You're the one making the claim the investors didn't have a play in this. Shouldn't the most obvious/common case be what we default to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* No no, you stated the investors made the decision. I say, I don't believe it without evidence. Until then it didn't happen. Also BTW, isn't this an indie company without investors at all? So I don't know what you talking about. I do not believe investors cancelled the demo of the game. If you cannot prove it, then I don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 18 hours ago* (9 children) I'm questioning your logic, not your sources. Thanks, though. Nice dodge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 18 hours ago (8 children) You made the claim. And I don't believe you are right, unless you can prove it. I'm not the making the claim that investors control the demo to be cancelled. Do you have any prove for your claim? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago (5 children) I made the claim that your hypothesis is irrational and lacking support, and followed up with why. Double down all you like. 🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children) You made the claim that their investors made the choice to take the demo away. I asked for evidence, which you still lack and talk like fluff only. I don't believe your claim until you prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 point 16 hours ago (1 child) You're the one making the claim the investors didn't have a play in this. Shouldn't the most obvious/common case be what we default to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* No no, you stated the investors made the decision. I say, I don't believe it without evidence. Until then it didn't happen. Also BTW, isn't this an indie company without investors at all? So I don't know what you talking about. I do not believe investors cancelled the demo of the game. If you cannot prove it, then I don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 18 hours ago (8 children) You made the claim. And I don't believe you are right, unless you can prove it. I'm not the making the claim that investors control the demo to be cancelled. Do you have any prove for your claim? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago (5 children) I made the claim that your hypothesis is irrational and lacking support, and followed up with why. Double down all you like. 🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children) You made the claim that their investors made the choice to take the demo away. I asked for evidence, which you still lack and talk like fluff only. I don't believe your claim until you prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 point 16 hours ago (1 child) You're the one making the claim the investors didn't have a play in this. Shouldn't the most obvious/common case be what we default to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* No no, you stated the investors made the decision. I say, I don't believe it without evidence. Until then it didn't happen. Also BTW, isn't this an indie company without investors at all? So I don't know what you talking about. I do not believe investors cancelled the demo of the game. If you cannot prove it, then I don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago (5 children) I made the claim that your hypothesis is irrational and lacking support, and followed up with why. Double down all you like. 🤷🏼♂️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children) You made the claim that their investors made the choice to take the demo away. I asked for evidence, which you still lack and talk like fluff only. I don't believe your claim until you prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children) You made the claim that their investors made the choice to take the demo away. I asked for evidence, which you still lack and talk like fluff only. I don't believe your claim until you prove it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago* (3 children) That isn't how hypotheses work at all, and to state that I made "a claim" is disingenuous at best. Of the two, yours is the less rational one. Not a judgment of your person, at least initially. 😑 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago (2 children) On what basis do you have a hyptheses? Does the indie company even have investors??? You ignored my previous questions questioning your statement, that is untrue until proven or bringing arguments. You made a baseless claim and now you attack anyone who does not believe your random thoughts without justification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don't forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 hours ago jesuschrist. Go outside with this bullshit. Or, ya know: scroll up and read a little. Don’t forget to breathe deep. 🤣🖕🏼 See how you dodge the most basic questions, but attack on a personal level. I ask again: Does the indie company have investors or are you pulling nonsense from your asshole and attack people who question your questionable statements? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 point 16 hours ago (1 child) You're the one making the claim the investors didn't have a play in this. Shouldn't the most obvious/common case be what we default to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* No no, you stated the investors made the decision. I say, I don't believe it without evidence. Until then it didn't happen. Also BTW, isn't this an indie company without investors at all? So I don't know what you talking about. I do not believe investors cancelled the demo of the game. If you cannot prove it, then I don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago* No no, you stated the investors made the decision. I say, I don't believe it without evidence. Until then it didn't happen. Also BTW, isn't this an indie company without investors at all? So I don't know what you talking about. I do not believe investors cancelled the demo of the game. If you cannot prove it, then I don't believe you. permalink fedilink source parent