▲ 71 ▼ Wow. #Helldivers2 (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 week ago by BmeBenji@mstdn.social to c/helldivers2@lemmy.ca 61 comments fedilink hide all child comments Wow. #Helldivers2 This is what happens when you prioritize kicking out the handful of people who use mods over addressing complaints. @helldivers2
[+] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world -8 points 1 week ago (20 children) Just the usual gamerbaby rage. permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago (19 children) It's not gamerbaby rage to be angry that Hd2 banned QoL mods and optimizations all cause they can't fix their own shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (14 children) How do they dissallow malicous or other ways that benefit the host over other users? I gotta imagine there’s mods to remove stuff like walls or other entities to get an advantage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago (13 children) It's a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. If there's a mod that gives you control over the host and prevents you from kicking them? Yeah alright, that's totally understandable, and wanting to fix that should be a goal. They probably don't need to use EAC to achieve that though. Many better solutions have been suggested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children) It’s a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don’t like the players in your match you can just find a new one. Are you fucking serious? Are you actually saying that Arrowhead should just relinquish control of their game completely, allow any player to hack and break the game for other players as much as they want? What kind of insane person thinks this is something any company would ever do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) @SamuraiBeandog What are you talking about? The game had been seemingly completely fine before now. I have almost 300 hours in it and I’ve never encountered any kind of mod or hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago Do you think it would be obvious? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) People using mods are literally the source of that down bar on the chart you posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (4 children) That is not at all what I said. They could provide lobbies for modded only clients, and those with no mods. Boom, both parties happy. Modders can continue to have such QoL stuff, cosmetics, and what ever else they may like. No bother to you at all. That's also only one solution that doesn't resort to needing to ban them and use an entirely different anti cheat client. Ban the cheaters getting SC easily, or ruining other players game. I just highly doubt that's a high % of the moding community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children) Or don’t allow malicious mods to begin with….? You can’t allow “QOL” without allowing the problematic ones. And what’s QOL to you, would be considered cheating by someone else. Oh the grass is distracting or is causing me to not be able to see, bye bye grass. Now you can see people you normally couldn’t. But of course if your head is so far up your ass you won’t see an issue with this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krudler@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I'm sitting here reading the other turkey's comments and I'm thinking he hasn't even considered his own position, he's just spewing words. Truly insane takes, a level of delusion and entitlement you rarely see. And just completely unabashed about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago I have. You all seem to think only cheaters play with mods, for a game that's against NPC's which gives zero advantage to playing with them. You all just don't mind eating arrowheads boot if it doesn't affect you :). permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. So I need to spend a large portion of my time gaming going in and out of lobbies or kicking people so I can have fun? Or they can just not have a disaster of a game where that’s an issue…. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (3 children) This is an insane take. There's no way to filter out what mods are "good" vs "bad". It's an online game, players thinking that they should have carte blanche to modify the game for other players is the height of entitlement. Only a baby is this completely self centered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Then you should read their actual post since they're actually happy with some of the mods that have come out, and I do truly hope that the ones that are good for the community are not banned. I don't have faith that using EAC will achieve that, and also believe other solutions are available. Oh well though, killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The entire point is that they can't differentiate between which mods are good and bad. Cosmetic only mods will probably be fine because they don't change game behaviour and are fundamentally different from gameplay mods. killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? The game will be fine, the vocal minority in the community has these tantrums every few months and then everything goes back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tachikoma@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago So add a server browser like Deep Rock Galactic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago (19 children) It's not gamerbaby rage to be angry that Hd2 banned QoL mods and optimizations all cause they can't fix their own shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (14 children) How do they dissallow malicous or other ways that benefit the host over other users? I gotta imagine there’s mods to remove stuff like walls or other entities to get an advantage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago (13 children) It's a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. If there's a mod that gives you control over the host and prevents you from kicking them? Yeah alright, that's totally understandable, and wanting to fix that should be a goal. They probably don't need to use EAC to achieve that though. Many better solutions have been suggested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children) It’s a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don’t like the players in your match you can just find a new one. Are you fucking serious? Are you actually saying that Arrowhead should just relinquish control of their game completely, allow any player to hack and break the game for other players as much as they want? What kind of insane person thinks this is something any company would ever do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) @SamuraiBeandog What are you talking about? The game had been seemingly completely fine before now. I have almost 300 hours in it and I’ve never encountered any kind of mod or hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago Do you think it would be obvious? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) People using mods are literally the source of that down bar on the chart you posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (4 children) That is not at all what I said. They could provide lobbies for modded only clients, and those with no mods. Boom, both parties happy. Modders can continue to have such QoL stuff, cosmetics, and what ever else they may like. No bother to you at all. That's also only one solution that doesn't resort to needing to ban them and use an entirely different anti cheat client. Ban the cheaters getting SC easily, or ruining other players game. I just highly doubt that's a high % of the moding community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children) Or don’t allow malicious mods to begin with….? You can’t allow “QOL” without allowing the problematic ones. And what’s QOL to you, would be considered cheating by someone else. Oh the grass is distracting or is causing me to not be able to see, bye bye grass. Now you can see people you normally couldn’t. But of course if your head is so far up your ass you won’t see an issue with this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krudler@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I'm sitting here reading the other turkey's comments and I'm thinking he hasn't even considered his own position, he's just spewing words. Truly insane takes, a level of delusion and entitlement you rarely see. And just completely unabashed about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago I have. You all seem to think only cheaters play with mods, for a game that's against NPC's which gives zero advantage to playing with them. You all just don't mind eating arrowheads boot if it doesn't affect you :). permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. So I need to spend a large portion of my time gaming going in and out of lobbies or kicking people so I can have fun? Or they can just not have a disaster of a game where that’s an issue…. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (3 children) This is an insane take. There's no way to filter out what mods are "good" vs "bad". It's an online game, players thinking that they should have carte blanche to modify the game for other players is the height of entitlement. Only a baby is this completely self centered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Then you should read their actual post since they're actually happy with some of the mods that have come out, and I do truly hope that the ones that are good for the community are not banned. I don't have faith that using EAC will achieve that, and also believe other solutions are available. Oh well though, killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The entire point is that they can't differentiate between which mods are good and bad. Cosmetic only mods will probably be fine because they don't change game behaviour and are fundamentally different from gameplay mods. killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? The game will be fine, the vocal minority in the community has these tantrums every few months and then everything goes back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tachikoma@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago So add a server browser like Deep Rock Galactic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (14 children) How do they dissallow malicous or other ways that benefit the host over other users? I gotta imagine there’s mods to remove stuff like walls or other entities to get an advantage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago (13 children) It's a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. If there's a mod that gives you control over the host and prevents you from kicking them? Yeah alright, that's totally understandable, and wanting to fix that should be a goal. They probably don't need to use EAC to achieve that though. Many better solutions have been suggested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children) It’s a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don’t like the players in your match you can just find a new one. Are you fucking serious? Are you actually saying that Arrowhead should just relinquish control of their game completely, allow any player to hack and break the game for other players as much as they want? What kind of insane person thinks this is something any company would ever do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) @SamuraiBeandog What are you talking about? The game had been seemingly completely fine before now. I have almost 300 hours in it and I’ve never encountered any kind of mod or hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago Do you think it would be obvious? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) People using mods are literally the source of that down bar on the chart you posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (4 children) That is not at all what I said. They could provide lobbies for modded only clients, and those with no mods. Boom, both parties happy. Modders can continue to have such QoL stuff, cosmetics, and what ever else they may like. No bother to you at all. That's also only one solution that doesn't resort to needing to ban them and use an entirely different anti cheat client. Ban the cheaters getting SC easily, or ruining other players game. I just highly doubt that's a high % of the moding community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children) Or don’t allow malicious mods to begin with….? You can’t allow “QOL” without allowing the problematic ones. And what’s QOL to you, would be considered cheating by someone else. Oh the grass is distracting or is causing me to not be able to see, bye bye grass. Now you can see people you normally couldn’t. But of course if your head is so far up your ass you won’t see an issue with this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krudler@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I'm sitting here reading the other turkey's comments and I'm thinking he hasn't even considered his own position, he's just spewing words. Truly insane takes, a level of delusion and entitlement you rarely see. And just completely unabashed about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago I have. You all seem to think only cheaters play with mods, for a game that's against NPC's which gives zero advantage to playing with them. You all just don't mind eating arrowheads boot if it doesn't affect you :). permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. So I need to spend a large portion of my time gaming going in and out of lobbies or kicking people so I can have fun? Or they can just not have a disaster of a game where that’s an issue…. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago (13 children) It's a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. If there's a mod that gives you control over the host and prevents you from kicking them? Yeah alright, that's totally understandable, and wanting to fix that should be a goal. They probably don't need to use EAC to achieve that though. Many better solutions have been suggested. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children) It’s a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don’t like the players in your match you can just find a new one. Are you fucking serious? Are you actually saying that Arrowhead should just relinquish control of their game completely, allow any player to hack and break the game for other players as much as they want? What kind of insane person thinks this is something any company would ever do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) @SamuraiBeandog What are you talking about? The game had been seemingly completely fine before now. I have almost 300 hours in it and I’ve never encountered any kind of mod or hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago Do you think it would be obvious? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) People using mods are literally the source of that down bar on the chart you posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (4 children) That is not at all what I said. They could provide lobbies for modded only clients, and those with no mods. Boom, both parties happy. Modders can continue to have such QoL stuff, cosmetics, and what ever else they may like. No bother to you at all. That's also only one solution that doesn't resort to needing to ban them and use an entirely different anti cheat client. Ban the cheaters getting SC easily, or ruining other players game. I just highly doubt that's a high % of the moding community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children) Or don’t allow malicious mods to begin with….? You can’t allow “QOL” without allowing the problematic ones. And what’s QOL to you, would be considered cheating by someone else. Oh the grass is distracting or is causing me to not be able to see, bye bye grass. Now you can see people you normally couldn’t. But of course if your head is so far up your ass you won’t see an issue with this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krudler@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I'm sitting here reading the other turkey's comments and I'm thinking he hasn't even considered his own position, he's just spewing words. Truly insane takes, a level of delusion and entitlement you rarely see. And just completely unabashed about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago I have. You all seem to think only cheaters play with mods, for a game that's against NPC's which gives zero advantage to playing with them. You all just don't mind eating arrowheads boot if it doesn't affect you :). permalink fedilink source parent [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. So I need to spend a large portion of my time gaming going in and out of lobbies or kicking people so I can have fun? Or they can just not have a disaster of a game where that’s an issue…. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children) It’s a game against entities, who, the fuck, cares? If you don’t like the players in your match you can just find a new one. Are you fucking serious? Are you actually saying that Arrowhead should just relinquish control of their game completely, allow any player to hack and break the game for other players as much as they want? What kind of insane person thinks this is something any company would ever do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) @SamuraiBeandog What are you talking about? The game had been seemingly completely fine before now. I have almost 300 hours in it and I’ve never encountered any kind of mod or hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago Do you think it would be obvious? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) People using mods are literally the source of that down bar on the chart you posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (4 children) That is not at all what I said. They could provide lobbies for modded only clients, and those with no mods. Boom, both parties happy. Modders can continue to have such QoL stuff, cosmetics, and what ever else they may like. No bother to you at all. That's also only one solution that doesn't resort to needing to ban them and use an entirely different anti cheat client. Ban the cheaters getting SC easily, or ruining other players game. I just highly doubt that's a high % of the moding community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children) Or don’t allow malicious mods to begin with….? You can’t allow “QOL” without allowing the problematic ones. And what’s QOL to you, would be considered cheating by someone else. Oh the grass is distracting or is causing me to not be able to see, bye bye grass. Now you can see people you normally couldn’t. But of course if your head is so far up your ass you won’t see an issue with this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krudler@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I'm sitting here reading the other turkey's comments and I'm thinking he hasn't even considered his own position, he's just spewing words. Truly insane takes, a level of delusion and entitlement you rarely see. And just completely unabashed about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago I have. You all seem to think only cheaters play with mods, for a game that's against NPC's which gives zero advantage to playing with them. You all just don't mind eating arrowheads boot if it doesn't affect you :). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children) @SamuraiBeandog What are you talking about? The game had been seemingly completely fine before now. I have almost 300 hours in it and I’ve never encountered any kind of mod or hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago Do you think it would be obvious? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) People using mods are literally the source of that down bar on the chart you posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago Do you think it would be obvious? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) People using mods are literally the source of that down bar on the chart you posted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BmeBenji@mstdn.social [S] 0 points 1 week ago @SamuraiBeandog Aside from me and people like me who can’t play the game because it can’t run for 10 minutes without crashing. And no I have never modded the game permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (4 children) That is not at all what I said. They could provide lobbies for modded only clients, and those with no mods. Boom, both parties happy. Modders can continue to have such QoL stuff, cosmetics, and what ever else they may like. No bother to you at all. That's also only one solution that doesn't resort to needing to ban them and use an entirely different anti cheat client. Ban the cheaters getting SC easily, or ruining other players game. I just highly doubt that's a high % of the moding community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children) Or don’t allow malicious mods to begin with….? You can’t allow “QOL” without allowing the problematic ones. And what’s QOL to you, would be considered cheating by someone else. Oh the grass is distracting or is causing me to not be able to see, bye bye grass. Now you can see people you normally couldn’t. But of course if your head is so far up your ass you won’t see an issue with this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children) Or don’t allow malicious mods to begin with….? You can’t allow “QOL” without allowing the problematic ones. And what’s QOL to you, would be considered cheating by someone else. Oh the grass is distracting or is causing me to not be able to see, bye bye grass. Now you can see people you normally couldn’t. But of course if your head is so far up your ass you won’t see an issue with this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children) You don't play the game do you? It's versus NPC's. There are no other players to shoot by getting rid of the grass. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) You get rewards based off your individual performance. So if someone can see the enemies easier, they’re gonna kill things faster and leave you behind. Like I said, there's been far better solutions offered that allow the best of worlds by smarter people, which certainly isn't you Yes like the company having these options in their base game as accessibility features, and designed in such a way that it’s balanced and doesn’t provide unfair advantages. You don’t seriously think allowing unfettered mod access os the best and ONLY solution do you? head so far up your ass Oh wait…. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago Individual rewards? What the fuck are you on dude, you complete the objectives and EVERYONE gets the same rewards. Mods would HELP you and never hinder you. As for your second point, you're joking right? The company that's notorious for allowing bugs to go unfixed for years, even after acknowledging them? Once again, you're just reading what you want. I've even listed examples of better suggestions that doesn't alienate their community, you just don't want to read them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Krudler@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I'm sitting here reading the other turkey's comments and I'm thinking he hasn't even considered his own position, he's just spewing words. Truly insane takes, a level of delusion and entitlement you rarely see. And just completely unabashed about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago I have. You all seem to think only cheaters play with mods, for a game that's against NPC's which gives zero advantage to playing with them. You all just don't mind eating arrowheads boot if it doesn't affect you :). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 point 1 week ago I have. You all seem to think only cheaters play with mods, for a game that's against NPC's which gives zero advantage to playing with them. You all just don't mind eating arrowheads boot if it doesn't affect you :). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* If you don't like the players in your match you can just find a new one. So I need to spend a large portion of my time gaming going in and out of lobbies or kicking people so I can have fun? Or they can just not have a disaster of a game where that’s an issue…. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (3 children) This is an insane take. There's no way to filter out what mods are "good" vs "bad". It's an online game, players thinking that they should have carte blanche to modify the game for other players is the height of entitlement. Only a baby is this completely self centered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Then you should read their actual post since they're actually happy with some of the mods that have come out, and I do truly hope that the ones that are good for the community are not banned. I don't have faith that using EAC will achieve that, and also believe other solutions are available. Oh well though, killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The entire point is that they can't differentiate between which mods are good and bad. Cosmetic only mods will probably be fine because they don't change game behaviour and are fundamentally different from gameplay mods. killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? The game will be fine, the vocal minority in the community has these tantrums every few months and then everything goes back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tachikoma@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago So add a server browser like Deep Rock Galactic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) Then you should read their actual post since they're actually happy with some of the mods that have come out, and I do truly hope that the ones that are good for the community are not banned. I don't have faith that using EAC will achieve that, and also believe other solutions are available. Oh well though, killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The entire point is that they can't differentiate between which mods are good and bad. Cosmetic only mods will probably be fine because they don't change game behaviour and are fundamentally different from gameplay mods. killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? The game will be fine, the vocal minority in the community has these tantrums every few months and then everything goes back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The entire point is that they can't differentiate between which mods are good and bad. Cosmetic only mods will probably be fine because they don't change game behaviour and are fundamentally different from gameplay mods. killing off a community inside your online game is always a great idea right? The game will be fine, the vocal minority in the community has these tantrums every few months and then everything goes back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tachikoma@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago So add a server browser like Deep Rock Galactic. permalink fedilink source parent