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[+] -20 points 18 hours ago (17 children)

Neat. Now use metric time. Tell me, how many kiloseconds are in a day and megaseconds in a year?

In the same way people seem to be able to learn there are 60 seconds in a minute, I know there are 12 inches in a foot.

Metric is wonderful scientifically and annoying practically. I'm with Orwell, I like a pint of beer, not 500 mL or 1 L.

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  • [–] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    .. annoying practically

    Said no one actually familiar with the metric system, ever.

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  • [+] -8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

    How would being educated exclusively in metric in a metric country not make me familiar?

    I immigrated to a common unit nation as an adult.

    Given I am a person and better and familiar with metric (and know plenty of immigrants who agree), your point is not valid.

    How many years have you lived in a common unit nation to experience the difference?

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  • [–] 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

    i'm genuinely struggling a lot to figure out what your argument is here

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  • [–] 5 points 10 hours ago

    "The story of the metric system starts, somewhat unexpectedly, in 17th Century England, with the proposal by the natural philosopher John Wilkins for a consistently decimal system of units. The Europe of his time was divided by the use of innumerable different systems of measure, with each country using its own traditional units (and in many cases, a lack of even national standardisation meant that different regions within countries would use their own measures). To remedy this, Wilkins conceived of a single, rational standard, based on the best science of his time, which all nations could equally share. His idea for a “universal Measure” was not adopted in his era, although that very phrase would ultimately (via Greek translation) give us the name of the metre."

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  • [–] -4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 child)

    Certainly happy to expand.

    The practical use of units derives from the features of our environments and what is important to us in our lives The length of a day is one of them. The characteristics of water is not, and that is where metric is derived.

    When one asks the temperature in the morning, one is not asking how much energy went into a volume of water. One is asking how to dress, so appreciable changes in a sense of temperature are appropriate.

    When on weighs themselves on a scale, the ability to calculate the volume of water equivalent is not the goal.

    I have now evenly split my life in a metric and common country. I grew up with metric, and find common much more practical because it evolved over centuries to be so.

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  • [–] 7 points 13 hours ago

    annoying practically.

    Strong disagree here. Maybe if you live in the US where the other units aren't frequently used yet, it's annoying. I grew up in the US but now live in Japan where most things are metric. The only big exceptions I can think of that require calculation are a couple of traditional units for property size, room size, and alcohol size (and some of those are slowly becoming less common).

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  • [–] 11 points 14 hours ago

    how many kiloseconds are in a day and megaseconds in a year

    I hope you are joking, because this is the kind of calculations that metric makes appealing, because they are no different than how many seconds are in 3 or 24 hours. If you are not joking, then you have to rethink your education, no offense intended. Here: 246060/1000 = 86.4 ks in a day, and approximately 365.25 times this number over 1000 is 31.5576 Ms in a year. Some, you know, elementary school shit.

    Seriously, one could say that, specifically regarding time, base 60 is more practical for everyday use. It is easily divisible with common fractions of time, like 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5 of 60 are all meaningful fractions of an hour (30, 20, 15).

    On top of that, time is one domain of everyday life that humanity is constrained by random, global constants, like earth's rotation and the (approximately) 24-hour day cycle. Earth as part of the planetary system is not a human construct and thus it can't be made to taste, using any system. (But roads, ships, boxes, and bottles can.)

    Having shortcut names for common subdivisions of anything is not an argument in itself. In fact this is a combination of fallacies. 1. Proponents of the metric system prefer its far-reaching consistency (base-10 for measuring most things, and at any scale however large or small; the original reason your argument is fallacious). Imperial has arbitrary bases for different things.

    1. Citing "megaseconds" and the like is just whataboutism. There are microseconds and milliseconds in common use, as a counter, as well as hectoseconds and other divisions in use, depending on application. Your computer does not count years, days, hours or minutes, it calculates them to make its internal time representation more user friendly.

    In fact, the imperial system's cultural ramifications are way more important than the choice of system. If the US wasn't deeply a backwards international pariah run by homeschooled cultist criminals with zero critical thinking skills, as demonstrated above, it would have adopted metric at least partially, like all industrialized nations. It correlates fully with its 1st and 2nd Amendment conundrums (its inability to interpret the constitution beyond face value, and thus be unable to ban hate speech and selling battlefield weaponry in grocery stores), and it comes as no surprise this fascist takeover is happening right now in the land of weekly mass shootings at schools.

    It is like meeting someone for the first time and him quoting Jordan Peterson, US's imperial system fixation is a red flag for its national character in whole.

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  • [–] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    Metric is wonderful scientifically and annoying practically.

    It is annoying to you because you are not used to it. It is perfectly fine and very useful for the rest of us.

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  • [–] -5 points 11 hours ago*

    I spent all but four of the first 25 years of my life in a metric country. It was the only system I was taught. I defended it as you did.

    It is perfectly fine. However, most here have never used both for extended periods in their lives to judge. I have.

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  • [–] 3 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

    Without even looking it up, 86.4ksec in a day, and 30 megaseconds in a year (525600 minutes). Easy.

    I like a 500ml beer. Good size tbh.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    What do your clocks and watches display?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    Convenient multiples of seconds!

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