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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (12 children) "Knives cause lots of stabbings, so let's ban knives" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] TehPers@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago "Guns cause a lot of shootings, so let's ban guns" ~ any reasonable country on the planet permalink fedilink source parent [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago (4 children) All those things, including knives, are heavily regulated, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 2 days ago (3 children) I'm sorry, who or what exactly regulates knives? Knife manufacture? Knife ownership? Even knife sales... If you're referring to ballistic knives or switchblades, sure - those are like guns, but the 99.999% of knives in the world? The ones anybody with a piece of metal can hammer out and sharpen for themselves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 20 hours ago Sweden has a knife law, you can't carry knives in public without a valid reason. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) In plenty of countries carrying knives in public is not allowed. You can own one for use in your home or work but don't brandish it out in the open. The reason few people know this is because it's rarely ever needed, and the people violating that law are generally the people you want arrested anyway (e.g. because they're trying to stab someone). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 1 day ago I see nothing special about knives in that respect, though I have no doubt there are laws. Making credible threats of killing or seriously injuring people, with whatever tools, would seem to be a good basis for arrest. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org -7 points 2 days ago (5 children) Nice try to equating a knife to fucking drugs. AI is even worse than drugs, is like the digital version of nuclear weaponry: it shouldn't even exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 20 hours ago Every country that has legalized or decriminalized drug use and promotes safe and responsible usage with support systems such as addictions counseling and drug purity testing has shown a decrease in drug use and addiction rates and overdose deaths. Whereas the 'war on drugs' has been going strong for like 100 years and usage in the US keeps rising, deaths keep growing, addiction rates are skyrocketing... And billions of dollars go to criminal enterprises. AI is so much worse than drugs and while open source models might seem like a friendly weed dealer on the corner they're actually getting their product from the same monsters and gangsters that are selling crack to schoolchildren (those are the big AI companies). permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (3 children) I swear, some people still think Prohibition was a great idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago* I mean, it is how ice cream became so popular... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/ice-cream-prohibition-era-craze However, the end of Prohibition was a much better idea than the start of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RumRunningDevil@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) It was. If the goal was to reduce the amount the average American drank alcohol year over year (and that was the goal) it was an overwhelming success; not only during prohibition but thereafter as well. Banning stuff and then enforcing the ban works really well and we have tons of evidence of it working; not just in the US but literally world-wide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) You seem to have missed the 1001 negative side effects of Prohibition, that eclipsed the tiny ideological victory of reducing drinking. https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/unintended-consequences Additionally, there is no consensus on whether Prohibition was even successful at that, owing to a lack of hard data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States This is quite aside from the fact that today we've figured out that criminalising drugs and users is the wrong approach and does a lot more harm than good. But we STILL have people like you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago "Guns cause a lot of shootings, so let's ban guns" ~ any reasonable country on the planet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago (4 children) All those things, including knives, are heavily regulated, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 2 days ago (3 children) I'm sorry, who or what exactly regulates knives? Knife manufacture? Knife ownership? Even knife sales... If you're referring to ballistic knives or switchblades, sure - those are like guns, but the 99.999% of knives in the world? The ones anybody with a piece of metal can hammer out and sharpen for themselves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 20 hours ago Sweden has a knife law, you can't carry knives in public without a valid reason. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) In plenty of countries carrying knives in public is not allowed. You can own one for use in your home or work but don't brandish it out in the open. The reason few people know this is because it's rarely ever needed, and the people violating that law are generally the people you want arrested anyway (e.g. because they're trying to stab someone). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 1 day ago I see nothing special about knives in that respect, though I have no doubt there are laws. Making credible threats of killing or seriously injuring people, with whatever tools, would seem to be a good basis for arrest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 2 days ago (3 children) I'm sorry, who or what exactly regulates knives? Knife manufacture? Knife ownership? Even knife sales... If you're referring to ballistic knives or switchblades, sure - those are like guns, but the 99.999% of knives in the world? The ones anybody with a piece of metal can hammer out and sharpen for themselves? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 20 hours ago Sweden has a knife law, you can't carry knives in public without a valid reason. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) In plenty of countries carrying knives in public is not allowed. You can own one for use in your home or work but don't brandish it out in the open. The reason few people know this is because it's rarely ever needed, and the people violating that law are generally the people you want arrested anyway (e.g. because they're trying to stab someone). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 1 day ago I see nothing special about knives in that respect, though I have no doubt there are laws. Making credible threats of killing or seriously injuring people, with whatever tools, would seem to be a good basis for arrest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 20 hours ago Sweden has a knife law, you can't carry knives in public without a valid reason. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) In plenty of countries carrying knives in public is not allowed. You can own one for use in your home or work but don't brandish it out in the open. The reason few people know this is because it's rarely ever needed, and the people violating that law are generally the people you want arrested anyway (e.g. because they're trying to stab someone). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 1 day ago I see nothing special about knives in that respect, though I have no doubt there are laws. Making credible threats of killing or seriously injuring people, with whatever tools, would seem to be a good basis for arrest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 1 day ago I see nothing special about knives in that respect, though I have no doubt there are laws. Making credible threats of killing or seriously injuring people, with whatever tools, would seem to be a good basis for arrest. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org -7 points 2 days ago (5 children) Nice try to equating a knife to fucking drugs. AI is even worse than drugs, is like the digital version of nuclear weaponry: it shouldn't even exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 20 hours ago Every country that has legalized or decriminalized drug use and promotes safe and responsible usage with support systems such as addictions counseling and drug purity testing has shown a decrease in drug use and addiction rates and overdose deaths. Whereas the 'war on drugs' has been going strong for like 100 years and usage in the US keeps rising, deaths keep growing, addiction rates are skyrocketing... And billions of dollars go to criminal enterprises. AI is so much worse than drugs and while open source models might seem like a friendly weed dealer on the corner they're actually getting their product from the same monsters and gangsters that are selling crack to schoolchildren (those are the big AI companies). permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (3 children) I swear, some people still think Prohibition was a great idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago* I mean, it is how ice cream became so popular... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/ice-cream-prohibition-era-craze However, the end of Prohibition was a much better idea than the start of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RumRunningDevil@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) It was. If the goal was to reduce the amount the average American drank alcohol year over year (and that was the goal) it was an overwhelming success; not only during prohibition but thereafter as well. Banning stuff and then enforcing the ban works really well and we have tons of evidence of it working; not just in the US but literally world-wide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) You seem to have missed the 1001 negative side effects of Prohibition, that eclipsed the tiny ideological victory of reducing drinking. https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/unintended-consequences Additionally, there is no consensus on whether Prohibition was even successful at that, owing to a lack of hard data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States This is quite aside from the fact that today we've figured out that criminalising drugs and users is the wrong approach and does a lot more harm than good. But we STILL have people like you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 20 hours ago Every country that has legalized or decriminalized drug use and promotes safe and responsible usage with support systems such as addictions counseling and drug purity testing has shown a decrease in drug use and addiction rates and overdose deaths. Whereas the 'war on drugs' has been going strong for like 100 years and usage in the US keeps rising, deaths keep growing, addiction rates are skyrocketing... And billions of dollars go to criminal enterprises. AI is so much worse than drugs and while open source models might seem like a friendly weed dealer on the corner they're actually getting their product from the same monsters and gangsters that are selling crack to schoolchildren (those are the big AI companies). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (3 children) I swear, some people still think Prohibition was a great idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago* I mean, it is how ice cream became so popular... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/ice-cream-prohibition-era-craze However, the end of Prohibition was a much better idea than the start of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RumRunningDevil@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) It was. If the goal was to reduce the amount the average American drank alcohol year over year (and that was the goal) it was an overwhelming success; not only during prohibition but thereafter as well. Banning stuff and then enforcing the ban works really well and we have tons of evidence of it working; not just in the US but literally world-wide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) You seem to have missed the 1001 negative side effects of Prohibition, that eclipsed the tiny ideological victory of reducing drinking. https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/unintended-consequences Additionally, there is no consensus on whether Prohibition was even successful at that, owing to a lack of hard data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States This is quite aside from the fact that today we've figured out that criminalising drugs and users is the wrong approach and does a lot more harm than good. But we STILL have people like you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago* I mean, it is how ice cream became so popular... https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/ice-cream-prohibition-era-craze However, the end of Prohibition was a much better idea than the start of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RumRunningDevil@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) It was. If the goal was to reduce the amount the average American drank alcohol year over year (and that was the goal) it was an overwhelming success; not only during prohibition but thereafter as well. Banning stuff and then enforcing the ban works really well and we have tons of evidence of it working; not just in the US but literally world-wide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) You seem to have missed the 1001 negative side effects of Prohibition, that eclipsed the tiny ideological victory of reducing drinking. https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/unintended-consequences Additionally, there is no consensus on whether Prohibition was even successful at that, owing to a lack of hard data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States This is quite aside from the fact that today we've figured out that criminalising drugs and users is the wrong approach and does a lot more harm than good. But we STILL have people like you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) You seem to have missed the 1001 negative side effects of Prohibition, that eclipsed the tiny ideological victory of reducing drinking. https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/unintended-consequences Additionally, there is no consensus on whether Prohibition was even successful at that, owing to a lack of hard data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States This is quite aside from the fact that today we've figured out that criminalising drugs and users is the wrong approach and does a lot more harm than good. But we STILL have people like you. permalink fedilink source parent