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[–] 15 points 3 days ago (1 child)

I have no industry ties and I also don't like the ultra-processed labelling. Refined white flour is very processed, but when you process it further, by fermenting it to make sourdough, you make it healthier, not less healthy

And then there are the more fundamental debates, including the argument that foods like flavored yogurt and whole-grain bread are beneficial even if ultraprocessed, so it doesn’t make sense to regulate foods based on processing levels.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    Same. I'm not in any way sympathetic to the processed food industry, but I think the nova system is scientifically un-rigorous, even in the low standards of nutrition science.

    Experts in the field struggle to classify foods into processed versus ultra-processed, because on the face of the definition, it is imprecise and difficult to apply to some of the most commonly eaten foods in the world, prepared in many of the same ways that have been happening for centuries or millennia: bread, cheese, yogurt, pickles, fruit preserves.

    It's a bad system, and people who are concerned about processed foods should study the actual ingredients involved.

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