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[–] 11 points 2 days ago (24 children)

When I have kids there will be a mandatory reading period everyday before bed, and limited screen time.

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  • [–] 3 points 17 hours ago

    Making it mandatory might be counterproductive, but encouraging it from an early age is probably wise.

    My current thinking is that screen time should be kept to a minimum in the early years. The health department in my country recommends that kids don't get a smartphone until 13 years old, which might just be sensible.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    If my own childhood is anything to judge by, I'm not sure requiring something of a child is a great way to instill a love of that thing.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    If mine is, it is. Almost like everyone is different. But I think it's fine and good to require some things of children, as long as it's not over the top, they have some agency about parts of it (e.g. what to read), and have enough time for their own other interests too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    If the kid isn't remotely interested at the jump, you're just pushing a boulder up a hill and everyone is getting angry about it.

    Parenting is more like boxing than putting together Legos. Have a plan, absolutely have a plan, but know who you're dealing with. There are other activities that are enriching that aren't reading. You don't get to pick who your kid is anymore than they get to pick who their parents are.

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago*

    if the child isnt interested at the jump, you as the parent messed up by not introducing reading early enough.

    All you gotta do is bake story time into the bedtime routine starting shortly after they sleep through the night. As a baby. Read some Dr. Suess to your baby and make em laugh as you do so.

    I read to my son every night, until he was about 8, then he didnt want to be read to anymore.. and started reading on his own.

    No you cant tell a ten year old what to be interested in, or much past 6, be able to direct which books as much, but toddlers will follow your lead more or less, as you establish routines, keep the screen from thier face, and these routines will carry into the later kid years.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Brace yourself. It's a pain in the ass!

    We have limited screen time for our kids on weekdays. Probably not as limited as it should be, but enough to cause constant grief. Holy shit the arguments and raging it's caused! We've been called nazis, prison guards, micromanagers, helicopter parents, you name it. So for our limited screen policy and implementation of it. I've had to get a bit of drywall repaired because one of them got so worked up he kicked the wall and broke it.

    I hope some day they appreciate we were only doing it for their own benefit. But who the fuck knows.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago* (2 children)

    Yikes. Screens (really not screens but social media and corpo net in general) are so damn addictive and terrible for all of us.

    No kids here but I'd have a hard time ever letting them have anything that isnt pre 2008 tech and zero internet until theyre maybe 13... Still too young. Limited net would be OK. kids at school are still gonna ruin it though.

    Let them have screen time but restrict it to gophernet or terminal only 😁

    Now imagine how bad itll be in the future when kids are utterly addicted to their chatbot gfs/friends and then need to pay a $200 a month sub to keep them. Wild .

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago

    Something interesting happened where I worked a little while ago. We had a phone in the lost and found that stayed there for, I kid you not, a whole month. The whole time I was like, how did somebody not realize they lost their phone right away?

    Turns out it belonged to a kid whose parents limited their screen time on that particular device anyway, and they hadn't realized it was missing for a whole month.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago

    It’s tough, but doable.

    We make sure to visit our public library every couple of weeks to keep at least 8-10 books in the house or a little plastic bin in the car. Eventually the kids get curious, flip through the pages, and then over time start reading on their own.

    You can do it (when the time comes)!

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago* (8 children)

    My parents did not allow a TV in our home until I was 8 or maybe 9. And even then I was only allowed very short viewing times during the week days and week-ends. I had books and comics, toys, board games and actual friends to play with, at home or, brace yourself, outside and without any adult supervision.

    Sure that happened many decades ago, in the previous century. But it did not kill me, far from it.

    edit: The key thing is that my parents too had other activities than watching a screen. Things I watched them doing and that I naturally tried to imitate.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    The problem is see, especially in my area, is that all of the places I used to go as a kid have been paved over and developed. Now they're constantly bitching about all these kids on ebikes, as if we weren't tearing up the woods and farm fields on dirtbikes when we were their age. We built a world hostile to children and somehow expect the children to be content living in safety bubbles.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    The problem is see, especially in my area, is that all of the places I used to go as a kid have been paved over and developed

    We built a world hostile to children and somehow expect the children to be content living in safety bubbles.

    100%. Which is a tragedy>. All of us adults, not just the parents, are ruining the kids childhood (and therefore deeply damaging their soon to be adulthood) under the umbrella of protecting their safety.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    The issue today, is that

    friends to play with

    is a luxury many don't have, at least not the way it was.

    The other kids have devices, internet, etc and that's how they connect, so if you aren't meeting them there you're getting left out.

    I don't say this to suggest you throw up your hands and give up, but it's a real complication to abstinence only plans.

    My kid is just entering this stage and it's really tough.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    is a luxury many don’t have, at least not the way it was.

    I understand your point but friendship was never a luxury, it was the one thing that was available to all, no matter their social status and income.

    What it was the repetition of actually meeting other people and spending enough time with them, learning to know them. That was also what helped us all learn to... socialize outside of the 'close family bound'.

    At least as important, and obviously in such short supply nowadays, it also taught us to accept as something OK that our friends needed not to be perfect, and neither did we had to be perfect.

    The exact things screens seem to have taken away from younger gens. A real shit deal for those kids, in my humble opinion

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I think we agree! My point is that if all the other kids are burried in screens and social media, it doesn't matter if you/your kid are not, because the opportunity to connect is much smaller.

    Sire there's other kids that aren't lost in screens, and that's great, but they are becoming a endangered species. As a parent it's hard to put your kid into that place.

    I think education and parenting is the right solution, teaching kids how to use these things safely and effectively, but with limits. Movements like the no phones until 18 or whatever only work if everyone is bought in and that isn't going to happen.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    I think we agree! My point is that if all the other kids are burried in screens and social media, it doesn’t matter if you/your kid are not, because the opportunity to connect is much smaller.

    We do, 100%. This is indeed a real huge issue. But as an adult I still think each kid should be given the opportunity to get enough time off screen (not all the time, but at least as much as they spend in front of a screen), even doing that will have a real/true/painful cost for them, and for the parents. Those kids get one chance to be kids and to use that time to grew in an as... balanced/well rounded manner as possible (sorry, I'm not a native English speaker).

    As for being one of the few kids doing that and being isolated... obviously, I have no ready-made solution, beside maybe looking for similarly worried parents (and they all should be) and to get to know one another, in order to let the kids spend time together.

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