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[–] 78 points 1 day ago* (14 children)

kubrick-stare

Minute 0

Ben flashes a screen capture of Hasan and then he says that DSA blames everything on capitalism.

Minute 1

Ben says that Marx ripped off Hegel. He says that Marxism is an ideology rooted in materialism instead of ideas. Ben uses a mocking, condescending tone when speaking during most of the video.

Minute 2

Ben says that Marx believes that people who support capitalism were brainwashed by public schools. Ben says that Marx described this as "false consciousness". (False consciousness is not a term that Marx ever used and there is only 1 record instance of Friedrich Engels using it. Also Ben used the term wrong.)

Minute 3

Ben says that communists want to own the means of production. Ben says this is impossible because surgeons don't own the people that they do surgery on and Teachers don't own the students.

Minute 4

Ben says communism forces you to work job that you don't want and capitalism let's you work where ever you want.

Minute 5

Ben misunderstands what "class war" is and he says that it's something that DSA wants to do in the future. (Class War is already happening) Ben says that DSA is wrong because anyone can be a stock trader if they want to.

Ben asserts that Labor Theory of Value is a bad idea and doesn't explain why.

Minute 6

Ben conflates "price" with "value". He says price can be whatever people are willing to pay.

Minute 7

Ben says that surplus labor value doesn't exist because capitalists spent money to get means of production.

Minute 8

Ben says that business owner takes all of the risk because capitalist spend moneys on means of production. Ben says that workers only risk losing their job.

Minute 9

Ben denies the existence of class conflict and insists that all classes benefit from wage labor.

Minute 10

Ben says DSA wants to dismantle the US government to do communism.

Minute 11

Ben says that if there are any regulations on rent, then landlords will stop building houses.

Minute 12

Ben says "horseshoe theory". He actually says it. Then he starts talking about Tucker Carlson and says that Tucker is exactly like DSA because Tucker has been saying anti-Israel stuff.

Minute 13

Ben says that Marxists blame the system for their struggles because they don't take personal responsibility for their failure.

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  • [–] 7 points 14 hours ago

    Ben says that communists want to own the means of production. Ben says this is impossible because surgeons don't own the people that they do surgery on and Teachers don't own the students

    This is so dishonest and stupid. Like seriously, how many surgeons own their own OR, surgery tools and cleaning lab? How many teachers own the textbooks and classrooms?

    Like, sure, without people in need of those services, the teacher and surgeon would have nothing meaningful to do with their skill, but that's true of EVERYTHING.

    I'm sure that the right wing response to what I am saying is "Are you triggered?"

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  • [–] 27 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    Ben says communism forces you to work job that you don’t want and capitalism let’s you work where ever you want.

    Ive been unemployed for so long, this always makes me laugh

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  • [–] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Well done on actually going through it.

    Makes me wonder how these people exist whenever I see this stuff, it's all the exact same drek every time, stuff that Marx himself repeatedly addressed, when it isn't just something completely made up and unrelated. They surely know that what they're saying doesn't actually make sense. They know it works on the hogs, but they must know that they are just lying about what Marx said. They obviously don't care, but I just can't imagine living like that, knowing what you're doing is just serving evil because they give you the crumbs as thanks for perpetuating their evil. Pro-capitalist propagandists like this are genuinely my most despised people in the world, it's one thing to be a capitalist, to be born into it, and there isn't really any of them can do to stop the system, they are beholden to its contradictions same as the working class. But working class traitors whose job is to perpetuate capital, to deceive people like this, I can't imagine a circle of hell deep enough.

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  • [–] 9 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    it's so unrelatable. I can't get into the mindset of a false witness who affirms obvious lies as a method of in-group signalling, it feels soulless and inhuman to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago

    Yeah, especially if they think their cause is "just" and they're allowed to lie to trick people into supporting it as a result. I've always tried to follow the truth, even when it has lead to unpleasant places, and that's why I'm a communist today. I can't imagine someone whose worldview is knowingly built on lies and they're fine with that, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I was like that.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Ben says communism forces you to work job that you don't want and capitalism let's you work where ever you want.

    ooooooooooooooh

    Ben says DSA wants to dismantle the US government to do communism.

    waow-based

    Ben says that if there are any regulations on rent, then landlords will stop building houses.

    Good

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  • [–] 32 points 1 day ago

    insists that all classes benefit from wage labor.

    one of the carrot dangling lies in this video alone. he never explains those benefits or what proportion each class allegedly gets and whether it's fair or not

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  • [–] 26 points 1 day ago

    Watching ben read marx so you don’t have to so you don’t have to. Thanks! Although I was foolish enough to think that he would actually be reading marx, not just regurgitating the same shit I can hear from dotards hanging around the nearest gas station.

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