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[–] 1 point 1 day ago (32 children)

Using a drill instead of a screwdriver erodes your ability to do hard work.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

    If you think you don’t need a screwdriver just because you have a drill then you’re a dumbass.

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    If you use a drill where a screwdriver is required then you are just going to break things. A great deal of the time using a drill is the absolute dumbest thing you could do and is not just detrimental to your goals but a demonstration of incompetence.

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    Have you? Do you think that’s some kind of gotcha? Some of us have jobs or hobbies that require us to use all kinds of real tools alongside our brains to do and make real things. Do you even know what the settings on a drill control?

    You not understanding a drill doesn’t mean drills are hard to understand.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Could you please explain in further detail why offloading cognitive labor is equivalent to reducing physical labor? Cognitive and physical labor are two different things: you need to struggle through a challenging problem to build structural thinking capacity for higher-order thinking; skipping fraction math isn't just saving physical energy but skips building the schemas needed for calculus, linear algebra, and so on. Using a drill over a screwdriver just saves your arm muscles, and it doesn't condition you to expect wood to screw itself together without your input.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    You still have to use the correct drill bits, so you have to know how to properly use a drill, but since those same tools are available as hand tools, its lazy to use a drill.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Imagine a world where a company invents an Automated Robotic Sculpting Arm.

    You don't need to hold a chisel or hammer anymore. You simply stand in front of a block of marble and speak to the robot using natural language: "Sculpt me a realistic human torso, slightly leaning forward, capturing a sense of tension."

    A novice steps up to the machine. They have never touched clay, never studied human anatomy, never felt the resistance of marble grain, and never made a mistake that chipped off an irreplaceable nose.

    The robot chisels out a figure in seconds.

    A veteran sculptor walks by and points out: "The muscle attachment at the collarbone is anatomically impossible, and the weight distribution makes the statue structurally unsound—it will tip over in a high wind."

    The novice replies: "No problem! I don't need to know anatomy or physics. I'll just refine my prompt!"

    So the novice turns to the robot and says: "Fix the collarbone so it looks anatomically correct, and adjust the weight distribution so it won't tip over."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    The master sculptor will eventually die and that hard learned knowledge and finesse will be lost. The pointed details will be locked into a fixed context and become immutable and untransferable to other works which will eventually lead to only the same exact sculptures will be made. Sculpture ceases to be an expression on individual understanding of reality and becomes a standardized product.

    Writing that made my stomach churn. It is nightmare fuel.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (16 children)

    That is not the issue here. It really is not.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    Would you use a drill to fit screws on sensible components or that required precise and careful fitting?

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  • [+] -6 points 1 day ago (13 children)

    Probably wouldn't want to use any old drill in that job. Would need a multi-million dollar specialized drill for that use case.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    Let's refine the question even more: would you put together a watch with a drill?

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  • [+] -6 points 1 day ago (11 children)

    Yes. CNC machines are fantastic drills for producing watches. Micro-drills are also used to create tiny accurately placed holes in movement plates, bridges, cases, etc. Why do you ask?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    Would you use a drill to assemble a watch?

    You are being unnecessarily coy with your replies. You stated that using a drill or a screwdriver have no inherent difference, I am trying to establish there is one using your own argument.

    The last reply was a shift in your original position. I am not talking about producing parts and components.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    Change the question all you want. What does hard work have to do with watches?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    I refined my question and replaced "put together" with "assemble" after your comment involving CNC and parts production. Felt as if I wasn't being clear enough in my words.

    Back to the watch analogy.

    Assembling a watch is a time consuming process, requiring patience and precision. It takes time to learn the process and failure, although not rewarding, is a crucial part of it.

    Using an LLM to do whatever it gets used for cuts off the building of the delayed reward process and lowers the threshold for people to endure frustration in order to achieve a result.

    A straight forward example: internet searching. A standard search result returns a series of possible pages where the answer for a given question may be. It may be the first link that supplies the information required, it may be the second, the tenth or a sum of the links, but it's up to the person doing the search to decide. And LLM returns a prechewed result that gives instant gratification but not long lasting learning.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Yeah, anyone can use it wrong. Im not arguing that. Thats why you don't use just any drill for watch making.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Apparently, you are. If you can equate using a drill to perform a task where the screwdriver is more adequate, you are not understanding the fundamental issue.

    But you do you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Alright bro, you win. You're smarter than me.

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    Thanks for confirming. I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm fully aware.

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