I (23M) had an abusive upbringing. In early childhood, my father beat me and told me I was weak when I cried out in pain and begged for mercy. Since then, I learned that I was unlovable because I expressed vulnerability and neediness instead of silently enduring the pain, and that others would expect me to be strong and take things "like a man."

As I grew up, I got better and better at hiding my pain. But because I so rarely experienced any kind of affection or positive attention, I never learned to hide pleasure.

I compared myself a lot to men in pornography. It seemed like nothing fazed them, even as women did things to them that could make me faint. These men had incredible endurance and could stay in control of themselves as they made manly grunts. I was a failure in comparison.

I do not make manly grunts. I sound like Mickey goddamn Mouse. I unlock 3 new octaves of vocal range and tremble and blush and hyperventilate like crazy. I'm so embarrassed about it. I see videos of men receiving oral and think "Holy shit, HOW is that guy still standing? He's not even shaking!?" And then I think there's no way in hell that women would put up with my effeminate whines if strong guys who can withstand a woman's attention with little more than a few grunts are everywhere.

I came up with all these sexist lies about women to reassure myself that there was no risk of being touched by them and I was in control. "Porn is just fiction and the actresses lie when they express pleasure or interest; in reality, women don't initiate or reciprocate touch in real life because they're sexually passive and men are the pursuers. Women don't want to touch men because they are wired to receive pleasure, not give it. Also, women have to constantly fear being stalked and harassed by men, so I am doing the right thing by staying as far away from them as possible. Besides, I'm too much of a sensitive crybaby to be attractive to women anyway. So I'm safe. Sure, I live in a touch-starved hellscape, but I'll never have to worry about a woman touching and exploring my body and having naughty thoughts about me, let alone acting on them."

But it's about time I drop the bullshit and be honest.

I'm terrified of being touched by women I'm attracted to because I fear that they would ruthlessly mock me when I inevitably lose my composure and melt into a flustered, needy, giggly, grateful puddle. After all, that's what happened the last time I was openly emotive, way back in childhood when I cried out for mercy. None of my generalizations about women are true, and my avoidance of women doesn't actually make the world better. I am not helping anyone or acting rationally by doing this; I am just avoiding the possibility of being seen when I'm an emotional mess.

I was hoping that no woman would ever sexually desire me because then I would never have to worry about being seen. There were a couple of incidents in school where someone groped me and ran off before I could see who they were, and I automatically assumed at the time that the perpetrator was a guy, because the possibility of them being a girl was far more dangerous to my psyche.

I have these pervasive fantasies that a woman would find my flustered collapse incredibly cute and sexy. Rather than chastising me, she would be really sweet and flirtatious and enjoy sensually melting me at my own pace so as not to overwhelm me. My fear tries to convince me that this outcome isn't possible. But every day, I gain just a little bit more hope that it actually is, and the fear and shame lose just a little bit more power.

I know that Lemmy isn't a substitute for professional help, which is why I have also been going to therapy, but I think it would help a lot if others could tell me what a partner's positive experience of my responses might look like or share how they dealt with similar insecurities and communicated about them with their partner.

What do you think?

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[–] 5 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

This reads like AI slop and OP’s history is full of wall-of-text comments that read the exact same way.

Sus.

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  • [–] 2 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

    Also it's one of those accounts that only post in AskLemmy. It's someone using an LLM but I don't know why. Having fun? Training? What is the point of wasting our time?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 14 hours ago (2 children)

    No, honestly? If you can't tell I'm a human by now, we are genuinely f u c k e d as a species. I have never had anyone accuse me of being AI like this before and it's so fucking grim that people can't tell I'm a real person. At least we don't have any age verification bullshit going on here, but I don't know what you expect me to say or do at this point to prove I'm a real guy. You honestly just convinced me that the Internet truly is dead at this point. Tear it all down. See you in the real world.

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  • [–] 1 point 14 hours ago (1 child)

    What is the point of asking a hundred questions in the same community?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 14 hours ago*

    I have Complex PTSD.

    I was raised in a hellhole with no references for how human connection is supposed to work, who can and cannot be trusted, how sex works, how relationships work... Usually your parents are supposed to teach you these things, but mine taught me that nobody can be trusted and I deserved to be tortured. So, I've spent the last 10 years slowly, painstakingly piecing together what love and connection looks like from almost nothing, all for the chance of a loving relationship.

    I've been going to therapy, but often asking questions about love and connection here helps to get me unstuck from a mental rut and grounds me in the real world just a bit more. I ask a lot of questions simply because there's a lot to learn, and it's often things that are obvious to other people (like voicing your needs in a relationship). Some answers I've gotten have helped me a lot and genuinely improved my ability to trust others. I don't have any trusted individuals I can talk to in real life besides my therapist, and I only get a couple hours a month with her.

    If you have any better suggestions on where to ask these kinds of questions, I'm open to hearing them. But from what I've seen, there aren't a lot of Q&A style communities here on Lemmy that are very active. Most Lemmy communities have barely any activity, so if I posted anything there, nobody will see it. And I don't want to give Reddit traffic.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

    Man, I hate that you can't tell who's real and who's AI nowadays.

    I have a bad habit of turning everything into a grand narrative with lots of background details when it doesn't really have to be, and I've been pretty verbose long before this stupid LLM slop wave. I've always written like that because I thought it would help people understand my situation, but now I'm starting to think it doesn't actually help that much. Too many blanks for people's minds to fill in, to the point where it's like they're talking to a totally different person.

    Just a symptom of loneliness I think. "Hi, before you answer my question, please read my biography so you know as much about my life as a close friend would."

    Maybe keeping things simple and providing less context is better.

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